• http://twitter.com/todayztrendz David Smith

    What are the actual ramifications if the FTC adhere to your own advice? My guess is nothing will change anyway – Google go on their merry way whatever minor change to some obscure guideline. A pyrrhic victory for you Danny, but nothing will change anyway.

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  • http://searchengineland.com/ Danny Sullivan

    It’s the FTC’s advice, not mine. The agency created rules that it wanted search engines to follow. It seems not to be enforcing or caring about those rules. The ramifications of that so far is that the search engines are happy to ignore them, also. Ultimately, that means consumers aren’t served well, since the agency in charge of protecting those consumers isn’t upholding the very rules it created. Alternatively, the space may have matured to the degree that the rules are no longer deemed necessary — but if so, they should be taken off the books.

  • Alan

    As with all guide lines they are there to be ignored.

  • Alan

    You keep using the word rules. They are not rules just guidelines. The difference between rules and guidelines is that rules you follow no matter what, guidelines you follow if it is of benefit. Obviously there is no benefit to following the guidelines any more.

  • http://www.facebook.com/the.nathaniel.bailey Nathaniel Bailey

    Unfortunately that’s life in the world of search, so lets hope that Danny’s emails to the FTC will get their backsides in gear in trying to enforce search engines to follow the guidelines which where created to give a better experience for searchers!

    I do agree that it’s unlikely much will change if anything in terms of search engines not making changes to follow the guidelines but hay, if anyone can put some pressure on them to do so it would be Danny lol :)

  • http://profiles.google.com/holly.jahangiri Holly Jahangiri

    You say “no benefit,” but don’t you really mean “no negative consequences”? Just as there’s a difference between “rules” and “guidelines,” so is there a difference between rewards and punishments. Guidelines have no teeth; that much is true. The benefit to following them is avoidance of rules that would make things tougher.

  • http://searchengineland.com/ Danny Sullivan

    The are guidelines that effectively are rules — the FTC was pretty clear it wanted these followed.

  • Alan

    and it is pretty clear Google is not planning on following them. So they aren’t rules but this is arguing semantics. What we have here is a company that doesn’t really care about “rules”. One step closer to being evil.. or more paranoid as you call it.

  • Alan

    double negatives are the domain of the pseudo intellectuals.

  • Grant Crowell

    Danny Sullivan, It’s still very peculiar that for someone who complains so much about others not following FTC guidelines, you and your own publication aren’t adhering to the FTC’s own dot com disclosure guidelines on material relationships with your guest bloggers. You’re having many of them speaking at your SMX East conference which is taking place tomorrow through Thursday, yet you and your publication refuse to disclose that in their posts on the Search Engine Land site. Whether or not a guest blogger gets paid, it still constitutes a material relationship that requires clear and conspicuous disclosure. The FTC’s own press officer, Elizabeth Lordan, expressed stated this several times which you’ve been made aware of repeatedly, yet your rebuttal is that you still believe publications like yours are exempt from these rules. Maybe you, Google, and the shopping search engines have more in common than you might think? http://www.blogworld.com/2012/07/14/disclose-this-how-the-ftc-has-left-bloggers-and-publishers-dazed-and-confused/

  • http://www.marketingtechblog.com Douglas Karr

    Rules, guidelines… Doesn’t matter since they can independently fine companies and businesses. The bottom line is that we all need to absolutely transparent on every tweet, update, blog post or comment… Something the SEO industry continues to ignore with every back linking scheme devised. It shouldn’t take the FTC to stop an industry from cheating.

  • Grant Crowell

    Instead of waiting around for the FTC and continuing to be frustrated, how about doing something actually productive. This can include supporting an independent usability study involving actual consumer testing. This would be funded by each search engine as well as each online marketing publication (including this one) for the study to be conducted on their own site. I’ve already spoken with several UX and Information Architecture professionals who agree that is the best way to produce empirical data you can take back to the FTC. After all, the FTC exists to support consumers first, so work with the consumers you already have.