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	<title>Comments on: Google Bad On Privacy? Maybe It&#8217;s Privacy International&#8217;s Report That Sucks</title>
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		<title>By: Carsten Cumbrowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carsten Cumbrowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.searchenginejournal.com/hitwise-was-acquired-by-experian-for-250m/4744/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.searchenginejournal.com/hitwise-was-acquired-by-experian-for-250m/4744/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee</p>
<p><a href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/hitwise-was-acquired-by-experian-for-250m/4744/" rel="nofollow">http://www.searchenginejournal.com/hitwise-was-acquired-by-experian-for-250m/4744/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carsten Cumbrowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carsten Cumbrowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, can&#039;t fix the URL, here it is again.

&lt;a / rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The article.

Sorry for that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, can&#8217;t fix the URL, here it is again.</p>
<p><a / rel="nofollow">The article.</p>
<p>Sorry for that.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carsten Cumbrowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carsten Cumbrowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding collecting consumer information like crazy.

Check out my post from April about &lt;a / rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Experians Acquisition of Hitwise. This makes Google look like a joke in comparison.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding collecting consumer information like crazy.</p>
<p>Check out my post from April about <a / rel="nofollow">Experians Acquisition of Hitwise. This makes Google look like a joke in comparison.</a></p>
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		<title>By: WebOptimist</title>
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		<dc:creator>WebOptimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, lots of info. My main concern is that Google makes opting out extremely difficult and confusing. The way it is set up now, you can be surfing while logged into your Google account and not know it. That little notice at the top right of the page is hardly visible.

I really don&#039;t want Google deciding what they think I want to see based on my search history. On the other hand, I like having the toolbar.

So, it would be nice to have a more obvious way to opt out of services I don&#039;t want to participate in. Doing so now is a lesson in frustration. Just try to find an &quot;opt out&quot; option...

And, I really don&#039;t like the idea of a Google van driving by and taking pictures of me scratching myself in my living room!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, lots of info. My main concern is that Google makes opting out extremely difficult and confusing. The way it is set up now, you can be surfing while logged into your Google account and not know it. That little notice at the top right of the page is hardly visible.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t want Google deciding what they think I want to see based on my search history. On the other hand, I like having the toolbar.</p>
<p>So, it would be nice to have a more obvious way to opt out of services I don&#8217;t want to participate in. Doing so now is a lesson in frustration. Just try to find an &#8220;opt out&#8221; option&#8230;</p>
<p>And, I really don&#8217;t like the idea of a Google van driving by and taking pictures of me scratching myself in my living room!</p>
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		<title>By: NunoH</title>
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		<dc:creator>NunoH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about taking sides...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about taking sides&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do you defend a corporation against evildoers?

write, like, a lot of...stuff, and hope it convinces someone that, like, there&#039;s probably some meaning in all of those, you know, words.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do you defend a corporation against evildoers?</p>
<p>write, like, a lot of&#8230;stuff, and hope it convinces someone that, like, there&#8217;s probably some meaning in all of those, you know, words.</p>
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		<title>By: Silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth, I think it&#039;s pretty hard to try to ascribe primarily selfish motivations to Google&#039;s resistance to turning over the usage data to the DOJ.

While you&#039;re suggesting that Google notified the press to get promotional value out of the resistance, I think it&#039;s likely that it was done to help bolster support in resisting the data request. Wouldn&#039;t it be stupidly limiting to not try to enlist the public to support one&#039;s resistance to the government&#039;s demands?

Other companies that apparently turned over data with no resistance perhaps appraised the situation and decided they&#039;d have more to lose than to gain. Google could&#039;ve easily concluded that as well -- after all, doesn&#039;t Google want the government to support them in various initiatives? Google wants a more open market for wireless spectrum and how about the importance of their cause in favor of net neutrality?

I think it&#039;s easier to argue that Google&#039;s resistance of the government&#039;s demands was more altruistic than selfish, even though they undoubtedly benefit from public perception in doing so.

I think that action alone probably should&#039;ve given them a &quot;get out of jail free&quot; card where the Privacy International report comes in.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth, I think it&#8217;s pretty hard to try to ascribe primarily selfish motivations to Google&#8217;s resistance to turning over the usage data to the DOJ.</p>
<p>While you&#8217;re suggesting that Google notified the press to get promotional value out of the resistance, I think it&#8217;s likely that it was done to help bolster support in resisting the data request. Wouldn&#8217;t it be stupidly limiting to not try to enlist the public to support one&#8217;s resistance to the government&#8217;s demands?</p>
<p>Other companies that apparently turned over data with no resistance perhaps appraised the situation and decided they&#8217;d have more to lose than to gain. Google could&#8217;ve easily concluded that as well &#8212; after all, doesn&#8217;t Google want the government to support them in various initiatives? Google wants a more open market for wireless spectrum and how about the importance of their cause in favor of net neutrality?</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s easier to argue that Google&#8217;s resistance of the government&#8217;s demands was more altruistic than selfish, even though they undoubtedly benefit from public perception in doing so.</p>
<p>I think that action alone probably should&#8217;ve given them a &#8220;get out of jail free&#8221; card where the Privacy International report comes in.</p>
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		<title>By: S Haar</title>
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		<dc:creator>S Haar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its funny, because one of the measurements used in the PI study was news articles. As a methodology, this is very poor, as faster growing companies tend to get disproportionate press. Therefore Google would naturally register more frequently. The blogs are following this trend regarding the PI study itself.

That however, is not the real issue. PI’s generally shoddy methodology and subjective conclusions shed a poor light on our industry&#039;s ability to address this issue – that should be the focus. At this point, any conclusion from the PI study is relevant only in that it gets PI more press. It does nothing to further a substantive solution to online privacy.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its funny, because one of the measurements used in the PI study was news articles. As a methodology, this is very poor, as faster growing companies tend to get disproportionate press. Therefore Google would naturally register more frequently. The blogs are following this trend regarding the PI study itself.</p>
<p>That however, is not the real issue. PI’s generally shoddy methodology and subjective conclusions shed a poor light on our industry&#8217;s ability to address this issue – that should be the focus. At this point, any conclusion from the PI study is relevant only in that it gets PI more press. It does nothing to further a substantive solution to online privacy.</p>
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		<title>By: rjonesx</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjonesx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe there is a pervasiveness issue that goes hand-in-hand with the results presented in the study. While I do not intend to defend their methodology or the hodge-podge of evidence they present in their report, a relaxed privacy standard at Google affects a much broader spectrum of users and a much deeper set of information.

I visit the BBC website perhaps once a month. I run Google Toolbar, use Gmail, Google Search (of course), Google Docs, and visit countless sites that run either AdSense, Analytics or both. I also run AdSense, have AdWords accounts, etc. With the vast amounts of data Google has acquired (and their stated intent to index the worlds information), they ought to be held at a higher standard - which it appears they may have been in this report.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe there is a pervasiveness issue that goes hand-in-hand with the results presented in the study. While I do not intend to defend their methodology or the hodge-podge of evidence they present in their report, a relaxed privacy standard at Google affects a much broader spectrum of users and a much deeper set of information.</p>
<p>I visit the BBC website perhaps once a month. I run Google Toolbar, use Gmail, Google Search (of course), Google Docs, and visit countless sites that run either AdSense, Analytics or both. I also run AdSense, have AdWords accounts, etc. With the vast amounts of data Google has acquired (and their stated intent to index the worlds information), they ought to be held at a higher standard &#8211; which it appears they may have been in this report.</p>
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		<title>By: feedthebot</title>
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		<dc:creator>feedthebot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth, I am sorry, I meant to also state that you raised some interesting and valid points, but I just did not see the relevance of those points to the accuracy or lack of accuracy of this report.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth, I am sorry, I meant to also state that you raised some interesting and valid points, but I just did not see the relevance of those points to the accuracy or lack of accuracy of this report.</p>
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