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	<title>Comments on: Google Calls Yahoo-Microsoft&#8217;s Explanation Of Search Scale &#8220;Bogus&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Alistair Lattimore</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/google-calls-yahoo-microsofts-explanation-of-search-scale-bogus-23998/comment-page-1#comment-6650</link>
		<dc:creator>Alistair Lattimore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is merit in the comment about Google being habitual. However, I&#039;ve been using MSN, Yahoo! and now Bing for search to keep tabs on things and I continue to go back to Google because, for me - the quality of their results are better. If Bing lifts their game on that front, with the push from Microsoft in advertising and exposure from the Yahoo! deal - it&#039;ll be another reason for people to consider breaking their existing search habit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is merit in the comment about Google being habitual. However, I&#8217;ve been using MSN, Yahoo! and now Bing for search to keep tabs on things and I continue to go back to Google because, for me &#8211; the quality of their results are better. If Bing lifts their game on that front, with the push from Microsoft in advertising and exposure from the Yahoo! deal &#8211; it&#8217;ll be another reason for people to consider breaking their existing search habit.</p>
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		<title>By: nickstamoulis</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickstamoulis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that comes to my mind is what if the Bing search growth (increases up from 5%) moves users from Yahoo! and not Google, which is a very good possibility...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that comes to my mind is what if the Bing search growth (increases up from 5%) moves users from Yahoo! and not Google, which is a very good possibility&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Cohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Cohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until the get their scale together, look for more Microsoft, Madison Avenue and Advertising Industry funded &quot;Online Display Advertising is the way&quot; &quot;studies&quot; to tout the virtues of online display advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until the get their scale together, look for more Microsoft, Madison Avenue and Advertising Industry funded &#8220;Online Display Advertising is the way&#8221; &#8220;studies&#8221; to tout the virtues of online display advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Search data can be valuable in (at least) 3 ways:

-historical data provides huge scale of information well beyond what you can get from the current data set. This is true for figuring out searcher intent, spam patterns, etc. It&#039;s quite possible Bing won&#039;t benefit from the scaled historical data because Yahoo search is on entirely different infrastructure and there may be no way to import it into their existing historical data storage mechanisms.

-Current searcher data provides lots of things at scale -- an indication of current trends and interests (a sudden spike in a topic can feed into what should trigger news results in web search, for instance), searcher intent, etc. It would absolutely benefit Microsoft to have 4-5 times the search volume for this.

-Experimentation. Varian says Microsoft could do experiments just as easily as Google does, but a 1% experiment at Google is going to provide substantially more data than a 2% experiment at Microsoft&#039;s current volume levels.

You can see the difference in data value based on searcher volumes with the keyword research tools the engines provide Compare the data you get from Google&#039;s adwords keyword tool and Microsoft&#039;s adCenter Excel plugin. In many cases&#039;s, Microsoft&#039;s data is too small to be useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Search data can be valuable in (at least) 3 ways:</p>
<p>-historical data provides huge scale of information well beyond what you can get from the current data set. This is true for figuring out searcher intent, spam patterns, etc. It&#8217;s quite possible Bing won&#8217;t benefit from the scaled historical data because Yahoo search is on entirely different infrastructure and there may be no way to import it into their existing historical data storage mechanisms.</p>
<p>-Current searcher data provides lots of things at scale &#8212; an indication of current trends and interests (a sudden spike in a topic can feed into what should trigger news results in web search, for instance), searcher intent, etc. It would absolutely benefit Microsoft to have 4-5 times the search volume for this.</p>
<p>-Experimentation. Varian says Microsoft could do experiments just as easily as Google does, but a 1% experiment at Google is going to provide substantially more data than a 2% experiment at Microsoft&#8217;s current volume levels.</p>
<p>You can see the difference in data value based on searcher volumes with the keyword research tools the engines provide Compare the data you get from Google&#8217;s adwords keyword tool and Microsoft&#8217;s adCenter Excel plugin. In many cases&#8217;s, Microsoft&#8217;s data is too small to be useful.</p>
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