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	<title>Comments on: Google Is A Scraper Site, Says National Association Of Realtors</title>
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		<title>By: greggster</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/google-is-scraper-says-national-association-of-realtors-19046/comment-page-1#comment-6132</link>
		<dc:creator>greggster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of Napter and the DRM madness -  the music industry was busy fighting Napter and over some spare change as Apple took their clients from them.  As Princess Leia said so well &quot;The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of Napter and the DRM madness &#8211;  the music industry was busy fighting Napter and over some spare change as Apple took their clients from them.  As Princess Leia said so well &#8220;The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Thompson</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/google-is-scraper-says-national-association-of-realtors-19046/comment-page-1#comment-5601</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 23:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for Google being a scraper site, Paula Henry will be one of two real estate agents speaking to the NAR on Thursday&quot;

I was the other agent that addressed the NAR MLS Committee last Thursday.

And the Committee voted, unanimously I might add, to change the language of the policy to:

Participants must protect IDX information from unauthorized use. This requirement does not prohibit indexing of IDX sites by search engines. 

This change was then approved by the NAR Executive Committee.

And then it went for final passage by the NAR Board of  Directors. At that point, one of the Directors (not coincidentally a MIBOR representative) made a motion to table the vote and send the proposed change back to the MLS committee for &quot;further discussion&quot;.

And that&#039;s exactly what happened.

&quot;Further discussion&quot; in this case means it won&#039;t come up again until the committee meets in November -- six months from now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for Google being a scraper site, Paula Henry will be one of two real estate agents speaking to the NAR on Thursday&#8221;</p>
<p>I was the other agent that addressed the NAR MLS Committee last Thursday.</p>
<p>And the Committee voted, unanimously I might add, to change the language of the policy to:</p>
<p>Participants must protect IDX information from unauthorized use. This requirement does not prohibit indexing of IDX sites by search engines. </p>
<p>This change was then approved by the NAR Executive Committee.</p>
<p>And then it went for final passage by the NAR Board of  Directors. At that point, one of the Directors (not coincidentally a MIBOR representative) made a motion to table the vote and send the proposed change back to the MLS committee for &#8220;further discussion&#8221;.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s exactly what happened.</p>
<p>&#8220;Further discussion&#8221; in this case means it won&#8217;t come up again until the committee meets in November &#8212; six months from now.</p>
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		<title>By: paulaspeak</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulaspeak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a new development in this story today. Apparently the National Association&#039;s MLS committee CHANGED their IDX rule, and now permits search engines to index IDX-fed Web pages!

This is excellent progress as it means more brokers/agents will be able to apply basic Web marketing principles and gain ground in the SERPs. We used the Bruce Clay, Inc. blog this week to discuss this in depth and give advice to this SEO-starved industry. See http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/archives/2009/05/jumping_into_th_1.html for the complete scoop. And thanks for bringing this issue to our attention, Matt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a new development in this story today. Apparently the National Association&#8217;s MLS committee CHANGED their IDX rule, and now permits search engines to index IDX-fed Web pages!</p>
<p>This is excellent progress as it means more brokers/agents will be able to apply basic Web marketing principles and gain ground in the SERPs. We used the Bruce Clay, Inc. blog this week to discuss this in depth and give advice to this SEO-starved industry. See <a href="http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/archives/2009/05/jumping_into_th_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/archives/2009/05/jumping_into_th_1.html</a> for the complete scoop. And thanks for bringing this issue to our attention, Matt!</p>
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		<title>By: jrowles</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrowles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NAR benefits when Realtor.com gets traffic.

Realtor.com gets its data outside of the IDX rules, which NAR dictates.

Therefore, NAR can dictate anti-competitive IDX rules that hobble the SEO capabilities of IDX-powered sites that benefit Realtor.com and, collaterally, other sites that are not subject to IDX display rules, like Google,Yahoo, Trulia, and Zillow.

The irony is that this policy hurts only the members of NAR, and helps only those (Realtor.com included) who are trying to get into the pockets of NAR members.

Considering that they had to back down from the DOJ last year in a settlement over yet another kind of data feed (VOW for &quot;Virtual Office Website&quot;) you really have to wonder  what the brain trust at NAR is thinking.

More at http://www.bloodhoundrealty.com/BloodhoundBlog/?p=8358</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NAR benefits when Realtor.com gets traffic.</p>
<p>Realtor.com gets its data outside of the IDX rules, which NAR dictates.</p>
<p>Therefore, NAR can dictate anti-competitive IDX rules that hobble the SEO capabilities of IDX-powered sites that benefit Realtor.com and, collaterally, other sites that are not subject to IDX display rules, like Google,Yahoo, Trulia, and Zillow.</p>
<p>The irony is that this policy hurts only the members of NAR, and helps only those (Realtor.com included) who are trying to get into the pockets of NAR members.</p>
<p>Considering that they had to back down from the DOJ last year in a settlement over yet another kind of data feed (VOW for &#8220;Virtual Office Website&#8221;) you really have to wonder  what the brain trust at NAR is thinking.</p>
<p>More at <a href="http://www.bloodhoundrealty.com/BloodhoundBlog/?p=8358" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloodhoundrealty.com/BloodhoundBlog/?p=8358</a></p>
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		<title>By: jasoncook</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasoncook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt - it sounds so simple and logical, right? Kind of amazing that we are even having to discuss something so obvious!

@Mike - I will definitely reach out to you.  Thanks for the offer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt &#8211; it sounds so simple and logical, right? Kind of amazing that we are even having to discuss something so obvious!</p>
<p>@Mike &#8211; I will definitely reach out to you.  Thanks for the offer!</p>
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		<title>By: Liassic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liassic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 09:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite ironic that everyone is trying really hard to get their data into Google and NAR/MIBOR are trying really hard to keep it out.  Pretty naive of them!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite ironic that everyone is trying really hard to get their data into Google and NAR/MIBOR are trying really hard to keep it out.  Pretty naive of them!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 01:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jason - I am Paula&#039;s broker and immediately affected by the ruling from MIBOR/NAR.  We need to talk!  I am gathering some local support to fight MIBOR and would love an opportunity to chat with you. We already have a good group of us affected by this who want to fight.  Visit my website,  www.reddoorindy.com, and contact me if you to talk about this.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jason &#8211; I am Paula&#8217;s broker and immediately affected by the ruling from MIBOR/NAR.  We need to talk!  I am gathering some local support to fight MIBOR and would love an opportunity to chat with you. We already have a good group of us affected by this who want to fight.  Visit my website,  <a href="http://www.reddoorindy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.reddoorindy.com</a>, and contact me if you to talk about this.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt McGee</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/google-is-scraper-says-national-association-of-realtors-19046/comment-page-1#comment-5538</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100%, Jason. My wife is an agent, and if she has 5 listings for sale, we don&#039;t care how people find them -- one her web site, on someone else&#039;s site, via Google, whatever. The goal is to sell the home, nothing else matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100%, Jason. My wife is an agent, and if she has 5 listings for sale, we don&#8217;t care how people find them &#8212; one her web site, on someone else&#8217;s site, via Google, whatever. The goal is to sell the home, nothing else matters.</p>
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		<title>By: jasoncook</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/google-is-scraper-says-national-association-of-realtors-19046/comment-page-1#comment-5535</link>
		<dc:creator>jasoncook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full Disclosure: I am the Director of Marketing at RealEstate.com and one of our local brokerages under MIBOR jurisdiction has been cited under this policy. Now...having said that...

Not only is this stance inaccurate, but it is detrimental to the very people that real estate organizations are supposed to service - consumers.  The internet has empowered us to search out the information we desire and having various competing options has been paramount to that success.  In this case, not only are potential buyers adversely affected, but sellers are perhaps the biggest losers in all of this.  If I&#039;m selling my house through an agent, I want to know that everything is being done to expose my home to potential suitors.  Blocking search engines from picking up this data limits that reach and forces buyers down a much smaller funnel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full Disclosure: I am the Director of Marketing at RealEstate.com and one of our local brokerages under MIBOR jurisdiction has been cited under this policy. Now&#8230;having said that&#8230;</p>
<p>Not only is this stance inaccurate, but it is detrimental to the very people that real estate organizations are supposed to service &#8211; consumers.  The internet has empowered us to search out the information we desire and having various competing options has been paramount to that success.  In this case, not only are potential buyers adversely affected, but sellers are perhaps the biggest losers in all of this.  If I&#8217;m selling my house through an agent, I want to know that everything is being done to expose my home to potential suitors.  Blocking search engines from picking up this data limits that reach and forces buyers down a much smaller funnel.</p>
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		<title>By: chiropractic</title>
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		<dc:creator>chiropractic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 20:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going to be interesting seeing how this one plays out. Real estate listings in local search has got to be a crazy space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going to be interesting seeing how this one plays out. Real estate listings in local search has got to be a crazy space.</p>
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