Comments on: Google Ranks Real-Time Tweets Based On Followers? http://searchengineland.com/google-ranks-real-time-tweets-based-on-followers-33439 Search Engine Land: News On Search Engines, Search Engine Optimization (SEO) & Search Engine Marketing (SEM) Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:19:20 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mferree http://searchengineland.com/google-ranks-real-time-tweets-based-on-followers-33439/comment-page-1#comment-8530 mferree Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:29:35 +0000 http://searchengineland.com/?p=33439#comment-8530 Barry, I came across a great example of how Google is ranking tweets. It is clear by the example that Google likes twitter profiles with relevant content, single hastags and does not make a big deal out of the amount followers. At least in this example. I documented what I found here: http://bit.ly/6snwWm Let me know what you think. Barry,

I came across a great example of how Google is ranking tweets. It is clear by the example that Google likes twitter profiles with relevant content, single hastags and does not make a big deal out of the amount followers. At least in this example.

I documented what I found here:

http://bit.ly/6snwWm

Let me know what you think.

]]> By: Shyam Kapur http://searchengineland.com/google-ranks-real-time-tweets-based-on-followers-33439/comment-page-1#comment-8433 Shyam Kapur Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:18:15 +0000 http://searchengineland.com/?p=33439#comment-8433 Great article and great comments. For those wishing for something better, you need look no further than TipTop http://FeelTipTop a few generations ahead of the state of the art. Great article and great comments. For those wishing for something better, you need look no further than TipTop http://FeelTipTop a few generations ahead of the state of the art.

]]> By: Shari Thurow http://searchengineland.com/google-ranks-real-time-tweets-based-on-followers-33439/comment-page-1#comment-8420 Shari Thurow Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:53:25 +0000 http://searchengineland.com/?p=33439#comment-8420 Hi all- I echo the sentiments of Michael Martinez. This whole Tweet/real-time search has gotten so out of hand. I know plenty "experts" in their respective fields whose social/business associations are none of anyone's business, as they are an asset. They are not going to friend everyone in Facebook and reveal their business assets. Likewise, many of these experts don't have the time nor the inclination to participate in Twitter or other forms of social media. They have more important things to do. And I'm sorry. Olga the beautiful Russian lady who wants to be my wife (and her cohorts) are not going to be my "friends" or anything I have control over. But damn! I am missing out on some pretty great links/friends, aren't I? Google...you're not getting it. PageRank was based partially on how scholars cite each other. Scholars have good reason to cite each other. The world does not consist of scholars. People link to each other, friend each other, Tweet to each other, etc. not because of quality. I agree with Martinez (and that study is great - highly recommend you all read it). Google doesn't get it. I hope another search engine comes along that DOES get it. Hi all-

I echo the sentiments of Michael Martinez. This whole Tweet/real-time search has gotten so out of hand.

I know plenty “experts” in their respective fields whose social/business associations are none of anyone’s business, as they are an asset. They are not going to friend everyone in Facebook and reveal their business assets. Likewise, many of these experts don’t have the time nor the inclination to participate in Twitter or other forms of social media. They have more important things to do.

And I’m sorry. Olga the beautiful Russian lady who wants to be my wife (and her cohorts) are not going to be my “friends” or anything I have control over. But damn! I am missing out on some pretty great links/friends, aren’t I?

Google…you’re not getting it. PageRank was based partially on how scholars cite each other. Scholars have good reason to cite each other. The world does not consist of scholars. People link to each other, friend each other, Tweet to each other, etc. not because of quality.

I agree with Martinez (and that study is great – highly recommend you all read it). Google doesn’t get it. I hope another search engine comes along that DOES get it.

]]> By: AndreaMeyer http://searchengineland.com/google-ranks-real-time-tweets-based-on-followers-33439/comment-page-1#comment-8414 AndreaMeyer Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:36:43 +0000 http://searchengineland.com/?p=33439#comment-8414 Why on earth would Google think hashtags are a sign of a lower quality tweet? Most of us are using it as an intentional way of tagging tweets by topics of relevance. Hashtags also commonly used when tweeting from a conference to group all the tweets so that people can easily follow along the conference, such as #WIF09 for the World Innovation Forum 2009. To me, hashtags indicate higher quality because they're an intentional categorization. @AndreaMeyer www.WorkingKnowledge.com/blog Why on earth would Google think hashtags are a sign of a lower quality tweet? Most of us are using it as an intentional way of tagging tweets by topics of relevance. Hashtags also commonly used when tweeting from a conference to group all the tweets so that people can easily follow along the conference, such as #WIF09 for the World Innovation Forum 2009. To me, hashtags indicate higher quality because they’re an intentional categorization. @AndreaMeyer http://www.WorkingKnowledge.com/blog

]]> By: Michael Martinez http://searchengineland.com/google-ranks-real-time-tweets-based-on-followers-33439/comment-page-1#comment-8409 Michael Martinez Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:18:11 +0000 http://searchengineland.com/?p=33439#comment-8409 Google seeks to extend its flawed citation analysis-based PageRank methodology everywhere. Despite scientific research that shows citation analysis is an unreliable method of evaluating quality (the Math Union published a study about this a couple of years ago), Google continues to cling to the nonsensical belief that it can derive legitimate value from an easily gamed concept. For example, it is an "open secret" that many followers on Twitter are nothing more than bot accounts that autofollow people. And quite a few people in the social media management industry open up dozens if not hundreds of Twitter accounts. There is even software out there that helps you populate your Twitter accounts with autogenerated content. I suppose as long as they continue to make a profit Google's overall approach to quality won't improve -- but then, no one ever promised the best mouse trap would lock in the market. Google seeks to extend its flawed citation analysis-based PageRank methodology everywhere. Despite scientific research that shows citation analysis is an unreliable method of evaluating quality (the Math Union published a study about this a couple of years ago), Google continues to cling to the nonsensical belief that it can derive legitimate value from an easily gamed concept.

For example, it is an “open secret” that many followers on Twitter are nothing more than bot accounts that autofollow people. And quite a few people in the social media management industry open up dozens if not hundreds of Twitter accounts.

There is even software out there that helps you populate your Twitter accounts with autogenerated content.

I suppose as long as they continue to make a profit Google’s overall approach to quality won’t improve — but then, no one ever promised the best mouse trap would lock in the market.

]]> By: Oliver http://searchengineland.com/google-ranks-real-time-tweets-based-on-followers-33439/comment-page-1#comment-8404 Oliver Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:10:20 +0000 http://searchengineland.com/?p=33439#comment-8404 Interesting and really informative article. I'm always interested in anything to do with Google and Twitter and I will have to read the full article when I have some time. Thanks for sharing. Interesting and really informative article. I’m always interested in anything to do with Google and Twitter and I will have to read the full article when I have some time. Thanks for sharing.

]]> By: Planetwebfoot http://searchengineland.com/google-ranks-real-time-tweets-based-on-followers-33439/comment-page-1#comment-8403 Planetwebfoot Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:22:08 +0000 http://searchengineland.com/?p=33439#comment-8403 Thanks for sharing. I found the point at the end of the article intersting, where Amit Singhal explained how hashtags can indicate a lower quality tweet. Interesting! Thanks for sharing. I found the point at the end of the article intersting, where Amit Singhal explained how hashtags can indicate a lower quality tweet. Interesting!

]]> By: mwheeler http://searchengineland.com/google-ranks-real-time-tweets-based-on-followers-33439/comment-page-1#comment-8399 mwheeler Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:02:42 +0000 http://searchengineland.com/?p=33439#comment-8399 Most accurate quote: "its equated to a popularity contest". This seems to be very true, and instead of quality tweets and spending time getting to know other tweeters (that sounds weird) most just use it for selfish reasons. It seems nothing matters but how many followers you can yield. There have been more and more articles recently analyzing twitter, and not always in a good way. Just pointing that out. - Matt www.webnabit.com Most accurate quote: “its equated to a popularity contest”. This seems to be very true, and instead of quality tweets and spending time getting to know other tweeters (that sounds weird) most just use it for selfish reasons. It seems nothing matters but how many followers you can yield. There have been more and more articles recently analyzing twitter, and not always in a good way. Just pointing that out.

- Matt
http://www.webnabit.com

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