• olimix

    After i got an “unatural link warning” then a loss to 1st page botton in serp, i did a big clean in my backlink by contacting most of the webmasters and made them remove my backlinks, for the last 5 backlinks, that i couldn’t remove, i did a disavow request, guess what : 1 day later , my site was nowhere for my main keyword. I will never use this tool again, best BS from matt cutts

  • http://theclosetgeek.net/ Barry Ricks

    Thanks Barry for all the awesome updates on how we can do things better.

  • SEO GROUP

    Barry,

    I love the fact that there is a solution to the very old question, “what if my competitor links spam to me?” Great solution, and thanks for letting us take control.

    Marvin
    seogroup.com

  • John

    Interesting Point. It makes it clear, but i don’t know how well it works in practice.

    and how feasible it is to do that, one can blast 10,000 links in no time and it’s not easy to disavow 10,000 links regularly…

    regards
    Jonh

  • Durant Imboden

    Trouble is, it can be hard to know what “bad links” are. Example: I’ve got more than 21,000 links from wn.com, and more than half of them are to the [topic] page on our site. On the face of it, that may look suspicious (or at least strange), but it appears that wn.com is linking to our site’s [topic] page as a resource every time it publishes something about [topic]. I’d hate to disavow those links if they’re legitimate, but I can see how paranoia might lead some site owners to disavow such links (possibly hurting themselves in the process) just to be on the safe side.

    Maybe WMT should have a little “?” next to link sources that are questionable in Google’s eyes, if only to help site owners focus their paranoia on links that may be worth worrying about.

  • toryreiss

    SO the big question still exist… What happens if you don’t contact the site master and just move straight to Disavow? How will Google WebMasters know the difference?

  • Andy Chen

    how did you ID which links to remove?

  • Emory Rowland

    I would say you can’t realistically contact all sites that link to you because of the security risks involved in visiting the site to research the contact info. The spammiest sites don’t have a method of contact. I guess you could go to whois or some third party but that hardly makes sense.

  • Rick

    I got that from the video as well and from the experience of working on the sites I work on. My question now is what if you don’t have a penalty at all. Do you need to try to get the links removed or is disavowing them enough? Is the disavow in this case automatic?

  • http://www.vcubework.com/ Internet Entrepreneur

    I donot think Google Disavow tools is any solution to the problem. Evenif you disavow all the links showing in Google webmaster there will be no change in keyword rankings.Instead of concentrating on links, try to concentrate on making your website informative by including blogs and case scenarios

  • Shaun O’Hagan

    Yes Leslie this is probably the most confusing “hole” left in many explanations on what to do about lost rankings. Where the suspicion is that you have a lot of low quality links with keyword anchors but you have not be explicitly warned in WMT, then the fair assumption is you’ve taken an algorithm hit, so whatever triggers have flipped have done so via some software inside Google and you should in theory be able to flip them back. Now the issue is how do you clean up without shooting yourself in the foot. Just get a list of all your links and look at each one and decide keep or loose and use disavow tool. Be very honest with yourself. Might take you a week or 6 months to go through them all. Remember that if you loose a load of links this way don’t expect to return back to the good old days. Then I guess it is down to some more natural link building whatever that is :-)

  • Leslie Rohde

    In some sense we think the disavow is “automatic” in the sense that Google has already discounted the links so disavowing them should be a non-event. On the other hand, reaching out and actually getting them removed (and disavowing the rest just for good measure) as part of a “trial recon request” we consider a good practice.
    Here’s why.
    If you are filtered algorithmically, which will be for specific rankings it always appears to us, it is presumably for a ranking you would actually like to have (hence the prior “link building”) and so long as the “bad” links are in play, everything you do that *should* impact that ranking will be at a great disadvantage.
    Anytime I see big large, rapid declines in targeted short tail keywords, I look at linking profile and on-site keyword use for signs of filtering or penalties.

  • Leslie Rohde

    It appears that “links are forever” making prior “bad practice” a proverbial time-bomb so we err on the side of caution and remove, disavow or get nofollowed anything even remotely non-editorial.
    We’ve shown that getting the mythical natural link really is doable and repeatable so we’d rather have students clients focus on that then worry about issues in their existing linking.

  • 11funny

    How longs needs Disavow Tool completely to remove bad backlinks?