• http://twitter.com/PhilCaines Phil Caines

    This is a strange trend. The only thing I can think about is that Raventools and SEOmoz were affecting some revenue stream of Google’s so they were shut down. I believe that both technologies were reporting-only API clients, which means that they had less requirements for their functionality. It couldn’t be a volume issue, as each technology paid for usage based on Google’s rates: https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/ratesheet

    If I had to guess, I would assume that Google is working on a paid Internet Marketing platform, which would be a competitor of both platforms. What do you think?

  • Alan

    I love a good conspiracy theory. Rand allowed his blog to be hijacked by dejanseo which left Google with egg on it’s face. I wonder if this a bit of a backlash. Yes Raven were included in this but Google is run by smart people who know just banning SEOMoz would have looked bad.

  • http://twitter.com/robkerry Rob Kerry

    Google T&Cs don’t allow you to just query keyword data, your app has to be a full PPC management app. If keyword API requests are significantly higher than requests to create/pause AdWords campaigns/keywords, it gets flagged up and reviewed.

  • http://twitter.com/AriNahmani Ari Nahmani

    I think it had to do with a bit of what you are saying (despite Raven having the *ability* to manage paid campaigns, I’m sure 95% of its API calls were keyword API requests). But also consider the fact that Raven / SEOMoz are *profiting* on the use of the API… I think this may be the crutch of it. Granted, this isn’t the only reason people sign up – but I’m quite certain that this also had a big part of it….

  • http://www.facebook.com/prad.ray Prad Ray

    What doesnt make sense if these are two of the most consumer loved tools on the market, so Googles reasons for cutting them off: “AdWords customers get the best experience when they use third-party applications.” make no sense at all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/prad.ray Prad Ray

    What doesnt make sense is that these are two of the most consumer loved tools on the market, so Googles reasons for cutting them off: “AdWords customers get the best experience when they use third-party applications.” make no sense at all.

  • http://twitter.com/Darren_Moloney Darren Moloney

    2 highly trusted resources that have probably done more to help with promoting Google’s products than any other SEO tools provider out there. If Google is planning its own tool then it’s hardly keeping a level playing field for everyone… I suspect this behaviour by Google to be viewed on a par with the “Not Provided” fiasco they’ve created.

  • http://twitter.com/K_J_Designs Keith James Designs

    I’m assuming both Raven and SEOmoz required it’s users to login using their AdWords credentials. I thought once you used your actual Google credentials that the software just used the individuals credential to make the API call. Is this not the way the software works?
    I have been using Google’s keyword tool lately just because the other software (not Raven or SEOmoz) I use for analysis is just too slow. I was thinking about changing to another service but now I’ll just let the dust settle until it is sorted out.

  • http://www.workwithclintbutler.com/ Clint A. Butler

    Its all about ad revenue. If they can keep you on their systems and not on a third party site they have the upper hand when it comes to marketing to you. Also, they probably feel that if your using the actual AdWords tool your more likely to buy ad space from them. Its a free service, the Adwords API, and I am sure that the SEOMoz and Raven folks can make something better anyway.

  • http://twitter.com/YoungbloodJoe Joe Youngblood

    Phil, If you’re right that would really get the anti-trust folks drooling.