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		<title>Google Adds Audio To Knols, YouTube Comments; What&#8217;s Next?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt McGee</dc:creator>
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Google has added audio playback to some of its Google Knol articles; this page on Echocardiography is an example. Clicking on the &#8220;Listen&#8221; link in the upper right displays an audio player with surprisingly clear sound. Google Operating System recently pointed to more information on an Audio Knol help page:

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<p>Google has added audio playback to some of its Google Knol articles; this page on <a href="http://knol.google.com/k/elyse-foster/echocardiography/JQ2bRJfX/JDpRrQ">Echocardiography</a> is an example. Clicking on the &#8220;Listen&#8221; link in the upper right displays an audio player with surprisingly clear sound. Google Operating System recently <a href="http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008/10/audio-knols.html">pointed to</a> more information on an <a href="http://knol.google.com/k/knol-help/knol-audio-playback/1ng4pryc7bgdb/24">Audio Knol help page</a>:
<span id="more-15033"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>We are experimenting with Audio Playback as an option for some knols, starting with a handful of English language featured knols. You can listen using our Flash player, or by downloading an mp3 file and using any mp3 player.</p></blockquote>
<p>The page says additional languages may be added if the experiment is successful.</p>
<p><strong>YouTube, Too</strong></p>
<p>Google has also added an Audio Preview button to YouTube that lets people hear audio of their own comments before posting it.</p>
<div><a title="Audio Preview on YouTube comments by Search Engine Land, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/23148333@N06/2929923054/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3019/2929923054_0e93d8827b_o.jpg" alt="Audio Preview on YouTube comments" width="392" height="147" /></a></div>
<p>Matt Cutts <a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/youtube-adds-read-comment-aloud-feature-from-xkcd/">confirmed suspicions</a> that this &#8220;feature&#8221; was a playful response to a recent <a href="http://xkcd.com/">xkcd</a> cartoon.</p>
<p>But it begs the question: Where else can Google add audio across its properties? Is there a chance we&#8217;ll someday see audio playback</p>
<ul>
<li>of search results?</li>
<li>of AdWords ads? (&#8221;click to hear this ad&#8221;?)</li>
<li>in Gmail?</li>
<li>of reviews on Google Maps?</li>
<li>of web pages viewed in Google Chrome?</li>
<li>in Google Reader?</li>
<li>in Google Docs?</li>
</ul>
<p>If these audio experiments on sites like Knol are successful, wouldn&#8217;t Google try the same on other products?</p>
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		<title>The Day After: Looking At How Well Knol Pages Rank On Google</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://searchengineland.com/080723-133642.php">We&#8217;ve been
assured</a> that just because content sits on Google&#8217;s Knol site, it won&#8217;t
gain any ranking authority from being part of the Knol domain. OK, so a day
after Knol has launched, how&#8217;s that holding up? I found 1/3 of the pages
listed on the Knol home page that I tested ranked in the top results. I came
away feeling that being on Knol does indeed give pages an advantage they
might not get if they&#8217;d been hosted on some other brand new web site.</p>
<p><span id="more-14443"></span></p>
<p>I was surprised to see a
<a href="http://www.thinkseer.com/blog/google-knol-is-behaviorally-targeting-ranking-well/2008/07/24/">
post covering </a> Knol&#8217;s
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/ryan-moulton/how-to-backpack/oggVvQ9h/aMOKbQ">how to ackpack</a> was already hitting the number three spot on Google.
Really? I mean, how many links could this page have gotten already? As it
turns out, quite a few. And more important, it&#8217;s featured on the Knol home
page, which itself is probably one of the most important links. While Knol
uses nofollow on individual knols to prevent link credit from flowing out,
it&#8217;s not used on the home page &#8212; so home page credit can flow to individual
knols featured on it.</p>
<p>Right now, the Knol home page shows no PageRank score at all. It&#8217;s a
brand new site, after all. But just because there&#8217;s no visible PageRank,
behind the scenes, Google is constantly calculating PageRank values (see
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070426-011828.php">What Is Google
PageRank? A Guide For Searchers &amp; Webmasters</a> for more on this). So being
on the Knol home page is almost certainly giving some of these pages
important link credit.</p>
<p>To test things more, I picked out 30 different knols listed on the Knol
home page, to see if they ranked in the top 30 results for the words they&#8217;re
titled for. Here are the results, with pages listed in order of how well
they ranked:</p>
<ol>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/felix-kuo/facial-cosmetic-enhancement/diZMBzbe/K4bcWg">
Facial cosmetic enhancement<wbr></wbr>t</a>: 1</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/ryan-moulton/how-to-backpack/oggVvQ9h/aMOKbQ">
How to backpack</a>: 3 (backpacking: 19; backpack: 0)</li>
<li>
<a class="knol-home-featured-knol-title" href="http://knol.google.com/k/the-family-handyman-magazine/toilet-clogs/24fnzmhl3vkiz/11">
Toilet clogs</a>: 3</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/david-hackam/vomiting-in-infants-and-children/NJ1J9KeY/MZS4Qw">
Vomiting in infants and children</a>: 3 (&#8221;vomiting in infants&#8221; ranks 13)</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/peter-weber/decreased-hearing/fnd4Jf3b/JdkeNg">
Decreased hearing</a>: 5</li>
<li>
<a class="knol-home-featured-knol-title" href="http://knol.google.com/k/anne-peters/type-1-diabetes/VxIOS9KU/QWqllQ">
Type 1 diabetes</a>: 6</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/cedric-dupont/first-ironman-triathlon/b7etAZj9/azElLg">
First Ironman triathlon</a>: 6</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/marc-cohen/orchid-basics/EkTARd8k/wm8W7A">
Orchid basics</a>: 7</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/gregory-marcus-md-mas/implantable-cardioverter-defibrillators/hCjLTV2A/qeyBbw">
Implantabl<wbr></wbr>e cardiovert<wbr></wbr>er-defibri<wbr></wbr>llators
(ICDs)</a>: 10 (lose the [ICDs] part, it drops to 17)</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/michael-hanley/pneumothorax-or-collapsed-lung/1zd24n2vk3iqx/2">
Pneumothor<wbr></wbr>ax or &quot;collapsed lung&quot;</a>: 10</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/anthony-luke/pediatric-sports-injuries/gfJtcKWX/T66pbw">
Pediatric sports injuries</a>: 13</li>
<li>
<a class="knol-home-featured-knol-title" href="http://knol.google.com/k/noshir-mehta/tooth-pain/iQYfUduC/CE-dcg">
Tooth pain</a>: 15</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/pejman-cohan/adrenal-insufficiency/3gypn2syd20u6/2">
Adrenal insufficie<wbr></wbr>ncy</a>: 0</li>
<li><a href="http://knol.google.com/k/rick-hecht/aids/xcGlvHu5/kaS6tQ">
AIDS</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/bryna-siegel/autism/epDokBTC/w3lKYg">
Autism</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/stuart-spechler/barretts-esophagus/ri8EY4tt/IMISWQ">
Barrett’s Esophagus</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/roger-steinert/cataracts/1k38pczxi398g/2">
Cataracts</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/stephen-c-lazarus/chronic-obstructive-pulmonary-disease/W7JzU7Dr/Y6Xdpw">
Chronic Obstructiv<wbr></wbr>e Pulmonary Disease (COPD)</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/mark-peppercorn/crohns-disease/jIMpZGOT/pR6xwg">
Crohn&#8217;s Disease</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a class="knol-search-knol-title" href="http://knol.google.com/k/chewy/devil-may-cry-4/1ir0hw2afe6im/2">
Devil May Cry 4</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/elyse-foster/echocardiography/JQ2bRJfX/JDpRrQ">
Echocardio<wbr></wbr>graphy</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/robert-rosenson/high-cholesterol/16f690dufrncz/2">
High cholestero<wbr></wbr>l</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/david-a-pharies/history-of-the-spanish-language/mvWu_PWJ/IXyV4Q">
History of the Spanish language</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/elyse-foster/infective-endocarditis/nKvMprHz/pnZZJQ">
Infective endocardit<wbr></wbr>is</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a class="knol-home-featured-knol-title" href="http://knol.google.com/k/jessica-donington/lung-cancer/tC006oKs/pXw2xg">
Lung cancer</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/richard-santen/menopause-what-is-it/fjmXV0LD/STBupw">
Menopause -what is it?</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/robert-wachter/patient-safety/I8d6CVRe/NRSyrQ">
Patient safety</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/paul-nadler-md/seasonal-allergies/KX1ORxaW/leQ38Q">
Seasonal allergies</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/c-benjamin-ma/shoulder-surgery/uOR7Q0inq/j0qgf6">
Shoulder urgery</a>: 0</li>
<li>
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/larissa-hirsch/teething/qrLSP-yR/cFUx9Q">
Teething</a>: 0</li>
</ol>
<p>OK, so 10 of the 30 &#8212; 33% of what I looked at &#8212; hit the top ten or
first page of results. You can spin that both ways. It&#8217;s proof that being in
Knol is NOT an automatic ride to the top of the search results. But then
again, knowing that 33% of your stuff will rank within a day is a pretty
good track record.</p>
<p>There are lots and lots of caveats to consider. For one, doing a backlink
lookup in Google is pretty useless, since Google
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070205-165836.php">deliberately
underreports</a> the links it knows about. For example, that &quot;how o
backpack&quot; page comes back with
<a href="link:http://knol.google.com/k/ryan-moulton/how-to-backpack/oggVvQ9h/aMOKbQ">
no reported backlinks</a>. Yet if I do this query &#8211;
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;lr=&#038;as_qdr=all&#038;q=how+to+backpack+knol&#038;btnG=Search">
how to backpack knol</a> &#8212; I come across at least two pages that link to
the backpacking page. And over on Google Blogsearch, you can get
<a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&#038;q=link:http://knol.google.com/k/ryan-moulton/how-to-backpack/oggVvQ9h/aMOKbQ&#038;um=1&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;sa=N&#038;tab=wb">
better reporting</a> to see 78 backlinks to it.</p>
<p>So backlinks directly to some of the top ranking pages might be helping
more than can be easily seen (and Google, this is one reason why you ought
to report backlinks fully for any site, to help us when we want to debunk
stuff). But then again, here&#8217;s a test knol I made yesterday &#8211;
<a href="http://knol.google.com/k/danny-sullivan/firefox-plugins-for-seo-sem/2g7crgfpo17hi/2">
Firefox plugins for SEO &amp; SEM</a> &#8212; which ranks 28 for
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=firefox+plugins+for+seo&#038;start=20&#038;sa=N">
firefox plugins for seo</a>. I never linked to it from my article about
knol. I don&#8217;t think it made the Knol home page. I can see
<a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&#038;q=http://knol.google.com/k/danny-sullivan/firefox-plugins-for-seo-sem/2g7crgfpo17hi/2&#038;um=1&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;sa=N&#038;tab=wb">
only three links pointing at it</a>, and only one of those links uses anchor
text relevant to what the page is ranking for. And it&#8217;s in the top 30
results?</p>
<p>Look, I know that being ranked 28 is pretty much near invisible in terms
of traffic you&#8217;ll get from search engines. But then again, to go from
nowhere to the 28th top page in Google out of 755,000 matches? I&#8217;m sorry &#8211;
don&#8217;t tell me that being in Knol doesn&#8217;t give your page some authority. Yes,
I understand that individual backlinks will likely make the difference in
how high you rank for a particular term. But the bottom line is that Knol
feels like a trusted domain to Google, and content hosted on trusted domains
will do better, in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>Google&#8217;s Knol Launches: Like Wikipedia, With Moderation</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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<p><a href="http://searchengineland.com/071213-213400.php">After six months
of testing</a>, Google has <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/knol-is-open-to-everyone.html">formally rolled</a> out
<a href="http://knol.google.com/">Knol</a>, a service designed to let
people create pages of knowledge on any topic they choose. While Google says
Knol is not designed to compete with Wikipedia &#8212; and there are good
arguments to back this up &#8212; I still think the easiest way to describe the
service is Wikipedia with moderation. Below, more about this, the service in
general, and some of the issues it may raise for Google.</p>
<p><span id="more-14434"></span></p>
<p>As many are aware, Wikipedia allows anyone to create and edit pages on
all types of topics. Need to know about the BS 546 electrical plug used by
old houses in Britain? I once did, and the Wikipedia community has created a
page about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_546">the topic</a>.</p>
<p>The collaborative advantage to Wikipedia is also its disadvantage. Since
anyone can
contribute, some introduce factual errors or overtly
vandalize articles (see
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070516-164154.php">George Washington
Did What According To Wikipedia???</a>). It&#8217;s one reason that Wikipedia is
<a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/17/wikipedia-tries-approval-system-to-reduce-vandalism-on-pages/">
considering moderation</a>.</p>
<p>Like Wikipedia, Knol (unlike many other Google products, officially it&#8217;s
just &quot;Knol,&quot; not &quot;Google Knol&quot;) allows anyone to create a page about any
topic. By default, new pages are set to use &quot;moderated collaboration,&quot; which
means anyone can contribute to them but additions only go live after the
page&#8217;s main author or authors allow the contributions to be added.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a nice idea. Potentially, it helps solve issues like vandalism yet
allows for a broad group of people to contribute. It also is a chief
argument in favor of why Google even needs to introduce a tool like Knol, that it is providing what will likely be a robust authoring tool with a
unique set of features.</p>
<p><b>Building A Knol</b></p>
<p>Creating a Knol is easy. You simply click on the &quot;Write A Knol&quot; button on
the home page, and then you get to a page authoring tool with options such
as:</p>
<ul>
<li><b>Title</b>: This serves as the main headline of your page<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Affiliation</b>: This option was added based on the feedback of medical professionals,
who form the bulk of those who have privately tested Knol. They wanted people to list any relevant affiliations that
might be seen as conflicts of interest. Personally, I think calling this a
&quot;bio line&quot; might make more sense. It&#8217;s not required.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Summary</b>: A summary of what the article is about.</li>
</ul>
<p>There&#8217;s also a main body field, of course. Within this, you can do basic
formatting of code, insert links (all which are supposed to be nofollow,
Google says), and more. There&#8217;s no particular style that a knol has to
follow, in terms of fonts, page headings or so on.</p>
<p>Right now, you can&#8217;t add embedded content such as YouTube
videos or maps. It&#8217;s mainly a security issue at the moment, Cedric Dupont,
the product manager for Knol, told me. If Knol allows embedded code, malware could get in. They&#8217;re exploring the
best way to do this going forward. But what about other Google authoring
tools like Blogger or Page Creator that can handle embeds? These tools are
using their own unique code, and Google wants to develop common code that
allows safe embeds for Knol and other Google properties.</p>
<p><b>Managing Settings</b></p>
<p>After you&#8217;ve created a knol, you can modify its settings using the
&quot;Manage&quot; tab at the top of the knol page. This is where you can:</p>
<ul>
<li><b>Control Collaboration:</b> Allow anyone to contribute without
moderation, allow contributions but only with approval, or keep it only
open to authors.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Set Sharing License:</b> You can license your knol for others to
use via Creative Commons. But what&#8217;s annoying is that if you use something like the &quot;attribution&quot;
option, there&#8217;s no way to indicate exactly what you consider to be fair
attribution (Flickr is the same way). In other words, it&#8217;s great that you can
say the work can be shared if attributed in a manner specified. But if
someone follows the help
<a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/">page</a> to learn
more about licensing your work, there&#8217;s nothing on it that says where to
find the exact attribution the author wants.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Enable Ads:</b> Yes, Knol will have ads, at launch from Google
AdSense. If you already have an AdSense, you can enable it. Don&#8217;t have
one? Knol stands ready to set you up. Yes, Google is considering letting
ads from others appear on these pages, but there are no immediate plans
for this.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Control Owners:</b> Decide who can administer the knol.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Control Authors:</b> Decide who can edit and modify the knol&#8217;s
content.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Invite Reviewers:</b> If you&#8217;re building a knol that hasn&#8217;t been
published, this allows you to let others see it.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>Unpublish/Delete:</b> Allows you to pull a knol from public view if
you published it already or delete it entirely.</li>
</ul>
<p><b>Being Seen</b></p>
<p>I said earlier that there are some ways Knol is not like Wikipedia. One
example of this is that there&#8217;s no table of contents or category structure on
the Knol home page to let you drill down into entries. Instead, if you want to find
something, by and large you have to search for it using the search box on
the site.</p>
<p>At first I thought this odd, but then it made a lot of sense. I certainly
never go to the Wikipedia home page to browse my way to a Wikipedia entry. Usually,
I get to an entry by searching for the topic (and typically from having done that search on Google itself).</p>
<p>The Knol home page does have some &quot;Featured&quot; knols on it.
What puts them there? Among the various signals Google uses are how long
people browse particular pages, how highly they are rated, commenting
activity and more. These same signals are also used to help rank pages in
response to keyword searches.</p>
<p><b>Importance Of The Author</b></p>
<p>Another way knol is different from Wikipedia is that it is designed to
have a heavy focus on a particular author. That&#8217;s something Google
emphasized about Knol when it was
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/071213-213400.php">first announced</a>
last December.
From my interview then with Google vice president of engineering Udi Manber:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>&quot;Knol is all about the authors,&quot; he said. &quot;We believe that knowing who
wrote a knol will significantly help users make better use of web
content.&quot;</p>
</blockquote>
<p>You can see the emphasis reflected in both the author box at the top
right of each page and Google&#8217;s attempt to &quot;verify&quot; that an author is who
they say they are.</p>
<p>For example, with Twitter, popular author Seth Godin doesn&#8217;t actually
twitter using the sethgodin name.
<a href="http://www.problogger.net/archives/2008/02/02/when-seth-godin-isnt-seth-godin/">
Someone else does</a>. Knol seeks to solve this by at least determining if
someone&#8217;s &quot;real life&quot; name matches what they&#8217;re using on Knol.</p>
<p>To do this, authors are invited to &quot;Verify Name&quot; using a button under
their picture. Verification can be done through cell phone, as Google can
match names to mobile phone records, apparently. Do this, and you get a PIN
code sent to your phone to complete the process.</p>
<p>Verizon subscribers are out of luck, as might be others (it didn&#8217;t work
for me using AT&amp;T). As an
alternative, you can provide a credit card number. I did a double-take at
this. Google, which faces so much pressure in some quarters that it is
gathering too much information, is asking for credit card numbers? I know, I
know, all the usual &quot;we won&#8217;t use this for other things&quot; reassurances are
given &#8212; and I believe them. But still, it just seems a bad idea to try it
this way if only from the negative public perception that might result.</p>
<p><b>Spam &amp; Ranking Domination Issues</b></p>
<p>Google&#8217;s Blogger service has become a well-known haven for spammers (and
the <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080228-102704.php">relaunched</a>
Google Sites program
<a href="http://www.labnol.org/internet/search/internet-drug-scams-on-google-sites/3953/">
just got attention</a> for hosting Viagra spam).
Things have greatly improved over the past years, but it&#8217;s still a problem.
What&#8217;s to keep Google&#8217;s Knol from becoming another spam repository?</p>
<p>The refreshingly honest answer was that Google does expect there will be
spam in Knol. But Google said it also expects to keep this in
control by watching for it very closely, noting that since Knol is a product
from Google&#8217;s
<a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/introduction-to-google-search-quality.html">
search quality team</a>, that team has a lot of experience in detecting
search spam that will be applied.</p>
<p>What about the issue that Knol pages might start dominating
Google&#8217;s search results, pushing out other content, in part because they
enjoy the strong authority of Google&#8217;s core domain? For example, it&#8217;s well discussed
in SEO circles that sites that are &quot;trusted&quot; through having earned
&quot;authority&quot; in various ways can seemingly can rank for anything.</p>
<p>Google assured me that the authority of Google&#8217;s domain wouldn&#8217;t give
Knol any additional trust. Knol pages will be scored based on the links and
PageRank pointing to individual pages.</p>
<p>And if spam isn&#8217;t kept in control, could Knol find itself banned on
Google? Yes, Dupont said.</p>
<p><b>Do We Need Knol?</b></p>
<p>While Knol only supports English and name verification for those in the
US at launch, Google hopes to quickly internationalize it. Support for
multiple languages, including Arabic and Spanish, should come quickly.
Indeed, Dupont said that Google views Knol as being more important for many
non-English speakers who&#8217;ve yet to publish material because of what Google
views to be a lack of good tools in their countries.</p>
<p>That leads me back to my dubiousness I had when Knol was first announced:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Google already offers other content creation tools, such as
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/">Blogger</a> and
<a href="http://pages.google.com/">Google Page Creator</a>. In addition,
there are non-Google tools people already use to publish content, not to
mention collaborative tools such as those I named at the opening of this
article. Why yet another tool?</p>
<p>Manber said that Knol has a special focus on authors and a collection
of tools that Google thinks is unique, and which in turn should encourage
both content creation and readership&#8230;.</p>
<p>Somehow, I suspect Seth Godin over at Squidoo isn&#8217;t going to be buying
the uniqueness argument. At least on the face of the screenshots (the one
above is a page authored by Manber&#8217;s wife, who is testing the system),
Squidoo offers pages featuring authors prominently, which also allow
ratings and some collaboration.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Google is sticking with the idea that Knol is indeed needed:</p>
<p>&quot;Blogger wasn&#8217;t created to solve a search problem. I do believe [Knol]
does solve a search problem. The problem we have, unlocking what people know
and bringing it online. This is another tool to help release some of this
knowledge. My dad has never written anything online. If he sees value in
writing a knol, we&#8217;d be hugely successful,&quot; Dupont said.</p>
<p>And the competition with Wikipedia? Isn&#8217;t that what this is, a Wikipedia
challenger?</p>
<p>&quot;We&#8217;re not trying to build an encyclopedia. That&#8217;s a very focused product.
Wikipedia has a great product, but that&#8217;s not what we&#8217;re doing. What we&#8217;re
building is a place for people to store their bits of knowledge, and each of these bits come
with the author bios and opinions and clearly that&#8217;s
very different from an encyclopedia. We hope many of these knols and their
authors will be referenced by Wikipedia and encyclopedias and help them,&quot;
Dupont said.</p>
<p>In particular, he also noted that unlike Wikipedia, there&#8217;s no &quot;one&quot;
entry for any particular topic. Any topic might have many different knols
produced by different authors.</p>
<p><b>Watch &amp; See</b></p>
<p>Overall, I still lean toward not wanting Google to do this. I remain
concerned that by hosting this content, it plays too much in the content
owner space when its core business is supposed to be driving traffic
outbound to others. Hosting content sets up inherent conflicts that over time
start to erode the trust people have in Google, I feel.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult, of course. YouTube is hosting content, but if YouTube
hadn&#8217;t offered hosting to begin with, some of the good content there would
never have appeared. Google Book Search is another example. Skip the legal
issues over in-copyright books. Google&#8217;s hosting plenty of out-of-copyright
content that&#8217;s helpful &#8212; and if it didn&#8217;t host it, that content wouldn&#8217;t exist on the web at all.</p>
<p>I can see the value in Knol&#8217;s toolset and the potential it might offer to
help collect further knowledge. Similarly, the unique environment that Yahoo
Answers has created has indeed led to answers showing up on the web that
might otherwise not have appeared. So I&#8217;ll give Knol the benefit of the
doubt &#8212; that it will perhaps occupy a space not being filled, rather than
push others aside. I just wish it weren&#8217;t Google 

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		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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<p>Ah, sweet irony. Yesterday I spent some time
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/071217-104917.php">raising concerns</a>
about knowledge aggregation sites like Wikipedia and the forthcoming
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/071213-213400.php">Google Knol</a>
potentially ranking tops for every search conducted. Today, what&#8217;s in the top
results for <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=knol">Knol</a>? Yep &#8212; a new
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knol">Wikipedia page</a> on the topic!</p>
<p>The page was created yesterday and took less than 24 hours to show up.
Looking at the top results for Knol is also fascinating in how until last week,
the Google project wasn&#8217;t announced, so the results had no reflection of it.
Today, they dominate the page:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/2119719243/" title="Google Knol Results by dannysullivan, on Flickr">
<img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2213/2119719243_55713d79b9_o.jpg" width="500" height="1012" alt="Google Knol Results" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s run down the list. </p>
<ol>
<li>KNOL is also the ticker symbol for <a href="http://www.knology.com/">
Knology</a>, and the <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=KNOL">Yahoo Finance
page</a> about that company has managed to hang on to the top spot. <br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>The official Google Blog
<a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/encouraging-people-to-contribute.html">
post</a> on Knol comes next.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>The official Google
<a href="http://www.google.com/help/knol_screenshot.html">screenshot</a> of an
example Knol page shows up third. Some SEO advice to Google: Get a title tag
on that page so it doesn&#8217;t look all weird when listed. You might also want to put a
link at the top of the page over to your blog post so people hitting the
screenshot have somewhere to go for more information.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Search authority Tim Bray warms my heart
<a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2007/12/14/Knol">by covering</a>
how &quot;transparent&quot; Wikipedia actually is pretty closed given &quot;a forest of
acronym&quot; and other issues that make me nod my head in violent agreement. But
he doesn&#8217;t see Knol as a solution.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>MarketWatch&#8217;s <a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/quotes/knol">page</a>
about Knology comes next.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Mashable&#8217;s
<a href="http://mashable.com/2007/12/13/google-introduces-the-knol/">write-up</a>
on Knol is fifth. Sniff. We were one of the few places pre-briefed by Google on
Knol and had an article with details not in the official blog post, which is
what the Mashable article and virtually all other news stories were based on.
But we get relegated to position 20 in the search results. Sniff. But congrats
to Mashable, and we&#8217;ll look forward to when Search Engine Land is a bit older.
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070206-111716.php">With age comes
authority</a> and an easier way to make it to the top. We only
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/071201-121504.php">just turned one</a>!<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Wikipedia <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knol">makes it</a> at
sixth. It&#8217;ll be interesting to see if the page rises over time. FYI, Squidoo
has three pages about Knol now. I like
<a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/encouraging-people-to-contribute.html">
this one</a> that&#8217;s just a copy of the official Google Blog post. I guess the
author missed the Google copyright statement at the bottom of the post. The
other two (<a href="http://www.squidoo.com/google-knol">here</a> and
<a href="http://www.squidoo.com/googleknol">here</a>) are pretty basic.
Mahalo&#8217;s got a <a href="http://www.mahalo.com/Knol">nice page</a> of mainly
news commentary (though our write-up, sniff, isn&#8217;t listed). As for Yahoo
Answers, three questions: how can someone get a Knol invite (<a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=As4n7w2u4D4Isjscg67786wjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20071215075440AAWPMee">here</a>,
and you can&#8217;t); are there reasons for Yahoo Answers folks to be afraid of Knol
(<a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071215150234AAmkltU&#038;r=w&#038;pa=FZptHWf.BGRX3OFMiDNcWLgoxGXY2sbQzdzKdZVGg9JMWfh6sw--&#038;paid=answered#NbUvWjS8VjX9pBeDWWrd">here</a>),
and how does Knol compare to Wikipedia (<a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApRA.L3nED7rmNaWN3Q1PG0jzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20071216171923AAtXIon">here</a>).<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Noah Brier&#8217;s <a href="http://www.noahbrier.com/quickies/2007/12/knol.php">
two paragraph summary</a> of Knol pulls off a nice coup by getting into the
top ten.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>News.com&#8217;s write-up on Knol.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Wired&#8217;s write-up on Knol.</li>
</ol>
<p>Also, I took a quick spin at Yahoo, Microsoft, and Ask. Main differences?</p>
<ul>
<li>Yahoo results are pretty similar to Google, though the Dutch
<a href="http://www.knol-online.nl/">Knol-Online</a> makes it in the top
results.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Microsoft gets <a href="http://www.knol-computers.nl/">Knol Computers</a>,
<a href="http://www.knolfarms.com/">Knol Farms</a>, and Wikipedia&#8217;s
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knol_Tate">Knol Tate page</a> into the
top results. Let&#8217;s hear it for diversity in search listings! You also get
finance pages about Knology. As for Google Knol, you get one single page of
ZDNet coverage &#8212; not even the official Google Blog post. Come on, Microsoft
&#8211; that post should be there.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Ask has even more diversity, from <a href="http://ryanknol.com/">Ryan Knol
Designs</a> to <a href="http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/493923.html">this page</a>
that mentions someone named Knol, among many other people. Google Knol is
covered by only a single News.com article about the service. The official blog
post doesn&#8217;t show, and that&#8217;s just as disappointing as with Microsoft.</li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week, our <a href="http://searchengineland.com/071213-213400.php">Google Knol &#8211; Google&#8217;s Play To Aggregate Knowledge Pages</a>
article covered the Wikipedia-like
<a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/encouraging-people-to-contribute.html">
Google Knol</a> product that Google is testing and may release in a few months.
In that article, I noted how Knol was aimed squarely at services like <a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/">Wikipedia</a>,
<a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/">Yahoo Answers</a>,
<a href="http://mahalo.com/">Mahalo</a>, and <a href="http://www.squidoo.com/">
Squidoo</a>. Since them, some of those players have responded to the Google
challenge. Below, a look at what they are saying, as well as the complicated
issues when everyone wants a web site that ranks for everything &#8212; including
Google.</p>
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<p><b>Squidoo</b></p>
<p>Knol seems most like Seth Godin&#8217;s Squidoo site. In Seth&#8217;s response to the
Knol announcement, he illustrates well how closely related the two seem to be by
taking the example Knol page on insomnia that Google
<a href="http://www.google.com/help/knol_screenshot.html">put out</a> and
<a href="http://www.squidoo.com/insomniaknol">reproducing</a> it on Squidoo. </p>
<p>The Google page was Creative Commons licensed to allow reproduction, so
there&#8217;s no harm, no foul in doing this. Of course, Knol authors will not be
required to license out their content for reuse, to my understanding, so Squidoo
won&#8217;t be able to pull this trick all the time.</p>
<p>Creating that page really highlights how bizarre the Google Knol move is, at
least on the face of what Google says versus how it acts.</p>
<p>Google has been pretty vocal in the past that it doesn&#8217;t want to put out
copy-cat products. Google products are supposed to go beyond the
state-of-the-art and offer something unique that isn&#8217;t in the marketplace. And
when Knol was announced, it was explained to me that it would be providing a
unique tool. Yet, clearly Knol isn&#8217;t so unique that it can&#8217;t be reproduced on
Squidoo.</p>
<p>Seth
<a href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2007/12/last-week-fight.html">
tries</a> to put a positive spin on new competitor Google coming into his space:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Then, a funny thing happened: I started getting notes of congratulations.
Of all the business models and all the internet ideas to jump on, Google had
chosen ours. There were hundreds of neat ideas out there, but they picked
ours.</p>
<p>That goes a long way to legitimize the original idea. It brings new users
into the space. It makes it easier to find partners who want to exploit this
‘new’ idea. It allows room for creativity. It&#8217;s not about whether or not
someone should be doing this. It&#8217;s about which place they want to do it in.
That&#8217;s a huge change.</p>
<p>Just as the acquisition of blogger led to an explosion in blogging
software, Google’s Knol makes the space pioneered by Squidoo a lot more
attractive.&nbsp; Apparently, the best thing that can happen to you if you
pick Google as a platform is that they mimic you.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;d be so positive. The folks at Technorati seem to
have been struggling lately. Yet two years
<a href="http://www.inc.com/magazine/20060201/handson-casestudy.html">ago</a>,
we got to read similar positive sounding statements from then CEO David Sifry on
how Google Blog Search has validated his model and made it easier for partners
to know what Technorati was doing:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>And a lot of the credit, he says, goes to Google. &quot;I no longer have to
explain what a blog is,&quot; he says. &quot;It&#8217;s absolutely an easier business discussion
now.&quot;</p>
</blockquote>
<p>As I covered earlier, Squidoo
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070711-101653.php">already suffered</a> a
major blow when Google slapped it out of some rankings. And while Google is
likely to suffer similar spam problems, a Google knowledge base has a huge
advantage over Squidoo in being tied to the Google brand.</p>
<p><b>Mahalo</b></p>
<p>While it started as a supposed search engine, you only need to look at pages
like <a href="http://www.mahalo.com/Google_analytics">this one</a> about Google
Analytics to understand that Mahalo is developing into a destination content
site, rather than a search engine that points outbound. That page is an
aggregation of knowledge about Google Analytics, which Mahalo founder Jason
Calacanis would like to see ranking number one on Google for those words in the
same way <a href="http://www.mahalo.com/How_To_Book_a_Cheap_Hotel_Room">this
page</a> at Mahalo ranks for
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=cheap+hotel+room">cheap hotel room</a>.</p>
<p>That puts him in direct conflict with Squidoo, which would also like to rank
tops for topics far and wide. Plus, Wikipedia is already the leader in actually
doing this. I asked him if Google Knol getting into the space made him feel
vindicated or scared. In between dealing with a missing passport, Jason
<a href="http://twitter.com/JasonCalacanis/statuses/500309672">twittered</a>
back:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Knol seems more like Wikipedia than Mahalo. Long articles etc. So, we might
link to it over/with Wikipedia.</p>
<p>Also, maybe we post our &quot;guides&quot; to Knol and get 2x the earnings? Will you
post your blog posts to it? Google our publisher?!</p>
</blockquote>
<p>As I&#8217;ve already explained, I think Mahalo indeed has long articles and is
heading down a path that makes it more akin to Wikipedia than a regular search
engine, so I do think Knol is a threat. But Jason does raise an interesting
point &#8212; potentially, he could publish on Knol, as well. The downside, of
course, is that duplicate content issues could cause Mahalo to lose traffic from
search engines, if Knol is seen as the more &quot;primary&quot; source. In addition,
anyone publishing on Knol is going to be in a take-it-or-leave it position over
how much ad revenue Google wants to share. Many would want more control
than this.</p>
<p><b>Wikipedia</b></p>
<p>John Battelle pinged Wikipedia&#8217;s Jimmy Wales,
<a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/004152.php">who gave</a> an answer
similar to Seth and Jason:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Sounds more like Yahoo Answers than Wikipedia to me. It is not a
collaborative tool, it is a competitive tool. </p>
<p>&quot;We hope that knols will include the opinions and points of view of the
authors who will put their reputation on the line. Anyone will be free to
write. For many topics, there will likely be competing knols on the same
subject. Competition of ideas is a good thing.&quot; </p>
<p>Very different from a wiki, and not likely to generate much of quality. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>To be clear, Google has very much said to me that Knol is a collaborative
tool. While there is one featured author, others can participate with that
author&#8217;s permission. In terms of quality, I have to laugh along with some of
those commenting on John&#8217;s blog that just because a sole author might be
involved, Wikipedia would have better quality by involving many people.
<a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/004152.php#comment_127131">Commented</a>
Andrew Taylor:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>The man whose website is an encyclopedia that can be edited by any idiot or
liar says that knol is &quot;not likely to generate much of quality&quot;? I mean, fair
play to Wikipedia it is mostly very good, but it strikes me as more than a
little arrogant to dismiss knol, as if his particular system for user-generated
content is the only one that might work.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>As Michael Arrington
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/17/a-few-thoughts-on-google-knol/#comment-1849162">
points out</a> today at TechCrunch, an interesting twist will be if Wikipedia
content &#8212; which can also be repurposed with appropriate credit &#8212; starts
showing up on Knol. That could help Wikipedia&#8217;s mission of disseminating
information, though it doesn&#8217;t help Wikipedia itself earn money. But then again,
it might also see Google taking action against its own pages in the same way it
seemed to <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070803-083203.php">attack
Answers.com</a> earlier this  year.</p>
<p><b>Aggregators: Can There Be Only One?</b></p>
<p>In my initial article on Knol, I expressed concern that so many knowledge
aggregation sites trying to enjoy Wikipedia-like success potentially could push
out from the top search results the independent, original content sources that
they depend on.</p>
<p>Do we really need a dozen or more Wikipedia clones? Do we really want this as
our search results:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/2118239032/" title="Future Google Search Results? by dannysullivan, on Flickr">
<img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2217/2118239032_2ccec3ce1a.jpg" width="334" height="500" alt="Future Google Search Results?" border="0" /></a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Many I know have a love-hate relationship with Wikipedia. We love it because
it really is often useful. We hate it because it seems to show up in every
search result (Nick Carr today offers a
<a href="http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/12/googlepedia.php">fresh look</a>
at this today). I constantly get laughs when I remark that Wikipedia is required
by law to be in the top listings for any search on Google. But I think we also
tolerate this because of its non-profit nature.</p>
<p>In contrast, I see little reason to love the fact that Seth Godin has decided
to make money by creating a web site that aims to rank well for everything.
Ditto Jason Calacanis and Mahalo. That&#8217;s especially so when both of them have
been dismissive of SEO or anti-SEO in the past (for Seth, see
<a href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2004/07/the_problem_wit.html">
here in 2004</a> and
<a href="http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/050114-111809">here in 2005</a>.
For Jason, see <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070208-110711.php">here</a>).
To quote Seth from 2004:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>SEOs are not a shortcut to success, at least not for 99% of the companies out
there. You won&#8217;t win by fooling Google into listing you first for a common
search term. You will win once you figure out the simple mechanics of turning
strangers into friends and friends into customers.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Sorry, Seth &#8212; but from where I sit, Squidoo seems far less about turning
strangers into friends and far more about trying to get a lot of traffic from
search engines. And Jason, for all you&#8217;ve slammed against the SEO industry,
you&#8217;ve created the ultimate SEO monster.</p>
<p>Now add into it this mix the fact that Google itself wants some SEO love?
Seriously &#8212; do we really need Google to be competing against other sites in
its own search listings? If Knol is going to launch, dare I suggest this? Make a
special unit at the top of the page for a single Wikipedia link and then use
some type of <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070212-093435.php">sitelinks
style</a> display to point to other aggregator sites such as Knol, Mahalo,
Squidoo, or whatever. Somehow, someway, consolidate these types of sites and
protect the variety and originality of core search results.</p>
<p><strong>Postscript:</strong> <a href="http://weblogs.hitwise.com/us-heather-hopkins/2007/12/knol_numbers_to_lend_context_t.html">Knol &#8211; Numbers to Lend Context to Google&#8217;s Announcement</a> from Hitwise has some nice comparative stats on the popularity of the various knowledge sites.</p>
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		<title>Google Knol &#8211; Google&#8217;s Play To Aggregate Knowledge Pages</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Move over <a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/">Wikipedia</a>,
<a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/">Yahoo Answers</a>,
<a href="http://mahalo.com/">Mahalo</a>, and <a href="http://www.squidoo.com/">
Squidoo</a>. Maybe. That&#8217;s because Google&#8217;s <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/encouraging-people-to-contribute.html">testing</a> its own service to
let people build a repository of knowledge. In fact, knowledge forms the core of
the service&#8217;s name: Google Knol.</p>
<p>
<img src="http://searchengineland.com/images/071213-knol.jpg" width="500" height="313"><br />
<b><font size="1">Screenshot of Google Knol page (feel free to use this and
those below, just link to
this story, please)</font></b></p>
<p>Google Knol is designed to allow anyone to create a page on any topic, which
others can comment on, rate, and contribute to if the primary author allows. The
service is in a private test beta. You can&#8217;t apply to be part of it, nor can the
pubic see the pages that have been made. Google also stressed to me that what&#8217;s
shown in the screenshots it provided might change and that the service might not
launch at all.</p>
<p><span id="more-12930"></span>
<em>
<p><strong>NOTE:</strong> Knol has launched since this article was written. See <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080723-133642.php">Google&#8217;s Knol Launches: Like Wikipedia, With Moderation</a></p>
<p></em></p>
<p>As said, the service gets its name from the word &quot;knowledge.&quot; A &quot;knol&quot; is a
new term that Google has coined to stand for a unit of knowledge, and they&#8217;re
also using that word as the name for pages within the service and the service
itself.</p>
<p>Knol pages will be hosted by Google. Authors will have the option to enable
Google ads and share in revenue. The pages will be made available to be found
through a Knol-specific search as well as through Google itself or via other
search engines, as they won&#8217;t be blocked from spiders. It&#8217;s likely the service
will be found at knol.google.com or some similar standalone address, if it
indeed finally launches. As said, a launch might not happen at all &#8212; there&#8217;s
certainly no set date.</p>
<p>Why do Knol? Google vice president of engineering, Udi Manber, who heads the
project, told me that is designed to help people put knowledge on the web that
doesn&#8217;t currently exist, which in turn should make search better, since there
will be better information out there.</p>
<p>Of course, Google already offers other content creation tools, such as
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/">Blogger</a> and
<a href="http://pages.google.com/">Google Page Creator</a>. In addition, there
are non-Google tools people already use to publish content, not to mention
collaborative tools such as those I named at the opening of this article. Why
yet another tool?</p>
<p>Manber said that Knol has a special focus on authors and a collection of tools
that Google thinks is unique, and which in turn should encourage both content
creation and readership.</p>
<p>&quot;Knol is all about the authors,&quot; he said. &quot;We believe that knowing who wrote
a knol will significantly help users make better use of web content.&quot;</p>
<p>Somehow, I suspect Seth Godin over at Squidoo isn&#8217;t going to be buying the
uniqueness argument. At least on the face of the screenshots (the one above is a
page authored by Manber&#8217;s wife, who is testing the system), Squidoo offers
pages featuring authors prominently, which also allow ratings and some
collaboration.</p>
<p>Speaking of Squidoo leads to another issue. Back in July, Squidoo found
spammers has caused the site itself to
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070711-101653.php">take a hit</a> in Google
rankings. For Google to offer a similar service seems an invitation to disaster.
Won&#8217;t spammers overrun it, in the same way that many feel spammers have overrun
Google-owned Blogger? Doesn&#8217;t that introduce yet more crud to ironically pollute
Google&#8217;s own search results?</p>
<p>Manber said he expect spammers will end up in the system but that Google has
already found ways to defeat them with Blogger and will take similar actions, if
needed, with Knol. I&#8217;d agree, Blogger spam showing up in Google has gotten much
better over the past few months. However, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d say the problem is
defeated &#8212; and even if Google manages to wipe it out, it&#8217;s still potentially
out there messing up other search engines.</p>
<p>This is not to say that all of Knol will be spam. Indeed, it&#8217;s likely that
the prominence of having content within a Google-hosted service may attract some
outstanding authors. Manber certainly expect this, saying that he hopes content
is created that will be so good that Google itself will rank it tops in
searches.</p>
<p>That leads to another problem. Is this Google going a step too far? Google
abandoned its search roots long ago, the idea that it was just a pointer to
other information. Today, its
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070511-092730.php">Search, Ads, &amp; Apps</a>
mantra that CEO Eric Schmidt has repeated on several occasions underscores that
offering content tools is fair game within its mission. But does hosting content
turn it into a competitor with other content providers and set up an unfair
advantage in gaining traffic that might otherwise flow to them?</p>
<p>Manber offered a number of reassurances that this is not the case:</p>
<ul>
<li>The content will be owned by the authors, who can reprint it as they like<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Authors can link out at will (and links might NOT have nofollow attributes
on them, allowing reputation to flow from Knol pages to others)<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>APIs will allow Knol information to be used by others<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Allowing ads other than Google&#8217;s might be a possibility (though this was
something I raised, rather than Google suggesting itself. Personally, I highly
doubt this would ever happen)<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Google will give no special weight to these pages; if they rank, they rank
because they compete with other pages and win the algorithm race</li>
</ul>
<p>Of course, Manber did say that Google could better tell which of the Knol
pages were of high quality by looking at signals such as ratings. Because the
content database is hosted at Google, it could easily pull the rating info in
without having to &quot;guess&quot; or &quot;scrape&quot; it off pages.</p>
<p>My concern in hearing this was that other pages with ratings might not have
their information taking in as a quality signal, since Google couldn&#8217;t as easily
harvest it. Thus, Knol pages might get an unfair advantage. To that, Manber
stressed that he didn&#8217;t see such signals being used at first, and if they were
down the line, Google might seek a way for others to provide similar signals to
its search engine.</p>
<p>Still, I have concerns about Knol in hurting independent authorship, just as
some of the other services I&#8217;ve named do as well. Go back two years ago, and
searches rarely came up with Wikipedia pages. Today, it almost feels required
that Wikipedia gets one if not two listings on Google, due to its
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/071212-000938.php">indented results</a>
feature.</p>
<p>The traffic that Wikipedia gets from Google has inspired others. Yahoo
Answers pages show up in Google for topics; Mahalo would love to rank for top
terms &#8212; and I&#8217;ve already mentioned Squidoo&#8217;s presence in search results. Now
Google gets into the picture to have its own hosted content compete for the
dwindling diversity of results on the search results page. It begins to feel
like the knowledge aggregators are going to push out anyone publishing knowledge
outside such aggregation systems.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have much more to say about this as I continue on from my
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/071127-091128.php">Search 3.0 story</a> and
into the next chapter, Search 4.0, that&#8217;s touched on in the earlier piece. In
short, at some point search engines cross over a line where they&#8217;re providing
more information than simple answers or pointing out, which changes them from
being a search service. Mahalo&#8217;s had a fast evolution along these lines, with
some pages that are simply content destinations than search results. What
happens when and if the major search engines do the same? Getting that balance
of human knowledge, compiled information, but still being a pointer is important.
If Knol launches, Google&#8217;s going to face that challenge square on.</p>
<p>Of course, in some ways Google might not have a choice. Yahoo has Yahoo
Answers; Microsoft has its own answers service; Wikipedia has experienced huge
growth, and things like Mahalo get some attention since they use humans, which
Google is seen to ignore. A service like Knol might be necessary to stay
competitive.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s more of the screenshot from above:</p>
<p>
<img src="http://searchengineland.com/images/071213-knol2.jpg" width="500" height="754"></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how the bottom of the Knol page looks:</p>
<p>
<img src="http://searchengineland.com/images/071213-knol3.jpg" width="500" height="627"></p>
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