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		<title>You Can Hate (Block) But No Longer Love (Star) Google&#8217;s Search Results</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/new-google-disables-starring-results-on-search-results-68248</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry Schwartz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google has disabled the ability to star search results from within the Google search results page. As you may remember, Google replaced SearchWiki with starring results back in March 2010, about 16-months after Google launched SearchWiki. Now that Google has re-introduced a way to block sites in Google, Google has determined you no longer need [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-68249" style="border: 0px initial initial;" title="Google Stars" src="http://searchengineland.com/figz/wp-content/seloads/2011/03/Screen-shot-2011-03-15-at-9.44.14-AM.png" alt="Google Stars" width="237" height="111" />Google has disabled the ability to <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-kills-searchwiki-replaces-with-starred-results-37288">star search results</a> from within the Google search results page.</p>
<p>As you may remember, Google <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-kills-searchwiki-replaces-with-starred-results-37288">replaced SearchWiki</a> with starring results back in March 2010, about 16-months after Google <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-launches-15561">launched SearchWiki</a>.  Now that Google has re-introduced a way to <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-brings-back-blocking-sites-in-search-results-67723">block sites in Google</a>, Google has determined you no longer need to star search results from the search results page.</p>
<p>This does not mean that you can no longer see stars in your Google search results.  It does however mean that you will no longer be able to star results directly from the search results.  Instead, you now need to go <a href="http://google.com/bookmarks">Google Bookmarks</a> and add a bookmark there for a star to show up in your search results.</p>
<p>Here is a picture of Search Engine Land as a starred result in Google&#8217;s search results.  The only reason it shows a star is because I manually added it to my Google Bookmarks.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-large wp-image-68250" style="border: 1px solid black;" title="Screen shot 2011-03-15 at 9.43.27 AM" src="http://searchengineland.com/figz/wp-content/seloads/2011/03/Screen-shot-2011-03-15-at-9.43.27-AM-500x172.png" alt="" width="500" height="172" /></p>
<p>As stated at <a href="http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/03/no-more-starred-results-in-google.html">Google Operating System</a> and <a href="http://www.seroundtable.com/google-stars-gone-13119.html">Search Engine Roundtable</a>, a Google employee named Laudy explained in two  <a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web%20Search/thread?tid=73d744f8c4d5e34a&amp;hl=en">Google Web</a> <a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web%20Search/thread?tid=6c1a2d5cba2b4802&amp;hl=en">Search Help</a> threads that the starring results were removed but does not explain why.</p>
<p><strong>Postscript:</strong> A Google spokesperson sent us a statement:</p>
<blockquote>Results you&#8217;ve already starred or bookmarked will continue to appear with stars in your search results. You can also still bookmark pages using the Google Toolbar or by visiting google.com/bookmarks. However, we are in the process of updating our bookmarking features so the ability to star new sites on the results page is currently unavailable.</blockquote>
<p><strong>Related Stories:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-brings-back-blocking-sites-in-search-results-67723">New: Google Lets You Block Any Site From Search Results</a></li>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-kills-searchwiki-replaces-with-starred-results-37288">Google Kills SearchWiki, Replaces It With Starred Results</a></li>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-launches-15561">Google SearchWiki Launches, Lets You Build Your Own Search Results Page</a></li>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-101-an-illustrated-guide-15580">Google SearchWiki 101: An Illustrated Guide</a></li>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-may-use-searchwiki-for-ranking-purposes-15777">Google SearchWiki To Get Off Button, Might Get Used As Ranking Signal</a></li>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/blekko-bans-content-farms-from-their-index-63134">Blekko Bans Content Farms From Its Index</a></li>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/demand-media-being-the-best-click-on-google-64059">Demand Media &amp; Being “The Best Click” On Google</a></li>
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		<title>Google May Let You Blacklist Domains To Fight Spam</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/google-may-let-you-blacklist-domains-to-fight-spam-62129</link>
		<comments>http://searchengineland.com/google-may-let-you-blacklist-domains-to-fight-spam-62129#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt McGee</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Features: General]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Google: Personalized Search]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ready for do-it-yourself spam fighting? Google has discussed giving searchers the ability to remove domains from its search results. That&#8217;s according to Matt Cutts, Google&#8217;s top spam fighter, who&#8217;s been posting frequently in a Hacker News discussion about Google&#8217;s search quality/spam blog post from Friday morning. In the discussion, Hacker News user &#8220;bradly&#8221; asks if [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://searchengineland.com/figz/wp-content/seloads/2011/01/delete-button.jpg" alt="delete-button" width="240" height="165" class="alignright" />Ready for do-it-yourself spam fighting? Google has discussed giving searchers the ability to remove domains from its search results. That&#8217;s according to Matt Cutts, Google&#8217;s top spam fighter, who&#8217;s been posting frequently in a <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2127937">Hacker News discussion</a> about Google&#8217;s <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/google-search-and-search-engine-spam.html">search quality/spam blog post</a> from Friday morning.</p>
<p>In the discussion, <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2128557">Hacker News user &#8220;bradly&#8221; asks</a> if Google would consider letting searchers remove domains from search results themselves. Cutts replies, &#8220;we&#8217;ve definitely discussed this,&#8221; and seems to hint that some kind of announcement may be on the way:</p>
<blockquote>Matt,</p>
<p>Can you speak about the possibility for personal domain blacklists for Google accounts? I know giving users the option to remove sites from their own search results is talked about a lot in these HN threads. Is there any talk internally about implementing something like this?</p>
<p><em>[Matt's reply]</em> We&#8217;ve definitely discussed this. Our policy in search quality is not to pre-announce things before they launch. If we offer an experiment along those lines, I&#8217;ll be among the first to show up here and let people know about it. :)</blockquote>
<p>Google&#8217;s SearchWiki feature previously allowed users to do something similar, but SearchWiki edits were done at the page and keyword level; you could remove individual pages from the search results for certain keywords. Even though Google <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-kills-searchwiki-replaces-with-starred-results-37288">shut down SearchWiki</a> last March, any results you removed while it was active are still preserved to this day in your Google account. </p>
<p>But the conversation above sounds more comprehensive than what SearchWiki offered. The question &#8212; and Cutts&#8217; reply &#8212; suggests that users could make domain blacklists that apply across-the-board to any keyword. </p>
<p>The Hacker News thread also includes a couple other possibly newsworthy items, with Cutts saying that Google is working on algorithmic solutions to fight <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2130155">Amazon Web Services clones</a> and <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2128207">Stack Overflow clones</a>.</p>
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		<title>Google Kills SearchWiki, Replaces It With Starred Results</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/google-kills-searchwiki-replaces-with-starred-results-37288</link>
		<comments>http://searchengineland.com/google-kills-searchwiki-replaces-with-starred-results-37288#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt McGee</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Google: Search Customization]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google&#8217;s SearchWiki, which launched 16 months ago to a mix of fanfare and controversy, is a thing of the past. The ability to re-order, remove, and comment on search results has been replaced by a scaled-down version that Google is simply calling &#8220;stars&#8221; or &#8220;starred results.&#8221; According to today&#8217;s announcement, the Stars feature will allow [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google&#8217;s SearchWiki, which <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-launches-15561">launched 16 months ago</a> to a mix of <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-struggling-15593.php">fanfare and controversy</a>, is a thing of the past. The ability to re-order, remove, and comment on search results has been replaced by a scaled-down version that Google is simply calling &#8220;stars&#8221; or &#8220;starred results.&#8221;</p>
<p>According to <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/stars-make-search-more-personal.html">today&#8217;s announcement</a>, the Stars feature will allow users to bookmark preferred pages so that those pages will show up when similar searches are done in the future. Google&#8217;s example is a search for &#8220;nfl&#8221;:</p>
<p><img src="http://searchengineland.com/figz/wp-content/seloads/2010/03/google-stars.png" alt="google-stars" title="google-stars" width="550" height="196" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-37289" /></p>
<p>Starred results will appear above and separate from Google&#8217;s algorithmic results; using this feature won&#8217;t change the traditional 10 results that Google returns in reply to a search. The new feature is also integrated with Google Bookmarks and the Google Toolbar for quicker access to starred items. Starred results also works across Google properties, so if you star a result in Google Maps, for example, it may also appear as a starred result the next time you search on Google.com.</p>
<p>Stars are already appearing for some users, and Google says it will be available globally for all signed-in users in &#8220;the next couple days.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for SearchWiki, at the time of its launch, Google <a href="http://searchengineland.com/qa-with-google-on-searchwiki-dont-expect-an-opt-out-soon-15599">told</a> Search Engine Land:</p>
<blockquote>Before we launched SearchWiki, hundreds of thousands of people tested it and the feedback was positive.</blockquote>
<p>But in today&#8217;s announcement of the new Stars in Search, Google is sending a somewhat different message:</p>
<blockquote>In our testing, we learned that people really liked the idea of marking a website for future reference, but they didn&#8217;t like changing the order of Google&#8217;s organic search results.</blockquote>
<p>For those who used SearchWiki, Google also says that all your edits will be preserved in your Google account.</p>
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		<title>Google SearchWiki: You Can &#8216;Check Out,&#8217; But Your Results Don&#8217;t Leave</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/disable-google-searchwiki-20901</link>
		<comments>http://searchengineland.com/disable-google-searchwiki-20901#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt McGee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After months of requests from its users, Google has finally added a way to turn off its SearchWiki tool. But, while you can &#8220;check out&#8221; of using SearchWiki, your customized search results don&#8217;t leave. More on that in a moment. Users can turn SearchWiki off (and on) by clicking on the &#8220;Preferences&#8221; link next to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After months of requests from its users, Google has finally added a way to turn off its <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-launches-15561">SearchWiki</a> tool. But, while you can &#8220;check out&#8221; of using SearchWiki, your customized search results don&#8217;t leave. More on that in a moment. </p>
<p>Users can turn SearchWiki off (and on) by clicking on the &#8220;Preferences&#8221; link next to the Google search box. Down near the bottom of the preferences page, you&#8217;ll see a check box that disables SearchWiki.</p>
<p><img src="http://searchengineland.com/figz/wp-content/seloads/2009/06/wikihide1.gif" alt="wikihide1" width="540" height="73" /></p>
<p>But all this checkbox does is remove the ability to use SearchWiki; if you&#8217;ve voted pages up or down, or left comments in the SearchWiki system, those will still be in effect while you&#8217;re logged in. Here&#8217;s a screenshot from my Google account:</p>
<p><img src="http://searchengineland.com/figz/wp-content/seloads/2009/06/wiki-notreally.gif" alt="wiki-notreally" width="540" height="298" /></p>
<p>The two sites I previously voted up remain at the top of the search results with the green up arrow, but the SearchWiki buttons are gone from all the other pages below. A Google spokesperson tells us that this is by design:</p>
<blockquote>&#8220;The SearchWiki preferences setting to &#8216;Hide the ability to share, promote, remove, or add your own results&#8217; does not delete user SearchWiki customizations. We expect that users who do not use the SearchWiki feature may wish to hide the controls, so we provide them with this option. However, if users have already made the effort to promote and comment on pages, we expect those users would like to maintain the benefit of their customizations by default.&#8221;</blockquote>
<p>Fair enough. So, if you want to disable SearchWiki <em>and</em> remove all of your previous customizations, you&#8217;ll need to turn SearchWiki on, then use the link at the bottom of a search results page that says &#8220;See all my SearchWiki notes.&#8221; </p>
<p><img src="http://searchengineland.com/figz/wp-content/seloads/2009/06/wikikill.gif" alt="wikikill" width="540" height="86" /></p>
<p>From there, you can undo what you&#8217;ve done before and then go back to the Preferences page to turn SearchWiki off.</p>
<p><strong>History</strong></p>
<p>Almost immediately after SearchWiki launched last year, the cries began from some users who wanted a way to turn it off and avoid the visual clutter it added to the search results page. At first, Google said they had <a href="http://searchengineland.com/qa-with-google-on-searchwiki-dont-expect-an-opt-out-soon-15599">no intention</a> of offering an opt-out mechanism. Here&#8217;s a November 2008 quote from SearchWiki product manager Cedric DuPont:</p>
<blockquote>&#8220;While users don&#8217;t have the option of turning off SearchWiki, they do have the option not to use the feature. By turning off the feature entirely, people will never get used to the new offering or see how it might be useful to them. We encourage people to try it out.&#8221;</blockquote>
<p>Public pressure continued, and a couple weeks after that, Google&#8217;s Marissa Mayer <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-may-use-searchwiki-for-ranking-purposes-15777">finally said</a> Google will add a method to disable SearchWiki. </p>
<p>(tip <a href="http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/06/disable-google-searchwiki.html">Google Operating System</a>)</p>
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		<title>Google Enables Simpler SearchWiki Notes Sharing</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/google-enables-simpler-searchwiki-notes-sharing-19667</link>
		<comments>http://searchengineland.com/google-enables-simpler-searchwiki-notes-sharing-19667#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 12:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry Schwartz</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Google: Personalized Search]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian Ussery noticed Google has changed the way you can share your SearchWiki notes in the search results. If you are logged in to Google and you have notes on search results, you can share those notes with friends. Here is how: (1) Search on the query at Google and the results should show up [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Ussery <a href="http://www.beussery.com/blog/index.php/2009/05/searchwiki-notes/">noticed</a> Google has changed the way you can share your SearchWiki notes in the search results.  If you are logged in to Google and you have notes on search results, you can share those notes with friends.  Here is how:</p>
<p>(1) Search on the query at Google and the results should show up with a link at the top to &#8220;share these notes&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rustybrick/3553330379/" title="Sharing SearchWiki Notes by rustybrick, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3553330379_03bb24f6e5.jpg" width="493" height="222" alt="Sharing SearchWiki Notes" /></a></p>
<p>(2) Click the link and a URL will show up in a text box, copy and paste the link and send it to a friend:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rustybrick/3553330397/" title="Sharing SearchWiki Notes by rustybrick, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3609/3553330397_c5f80b41af.jpg" width="489" height="88" alt="Sharing SearchWiki Notes" /></a></p>
<p>(3) Here is <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=barry+schwartz&#038;pov=114496456849072821784&#038;usg=__Q8Z3E8zESANy7ogqIc4ppaC6k0g=">a preview</a> of that result for you to see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rustybrick/3553330523/" title="Sharing SearchWiki Notes by rustybrick, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3324/3553330523_b0d48530c5.jpg" width="500" height="428" alt="Sharing SearchWiki Notes" /></a></p>
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		<title>Google Is Testing SearchWiki As Way To Remove AdWords Ads</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/searchwiki-making-its-way-to-adwords-remove-unwanted-ads-16576</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry Schwartz</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Google: AdWords]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night I discovered reports via WebmasterWorld that shows Google testing a flavor of Google SearchWiki directly on the paid ads, also known as AdWords results. Here is a screen capture of that in action: I have emailed Google for a statement and I will update this post when I receive one. If you want [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night I <a href="http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/019423.html">discovered</a> reports via <a href="http://www.webmasterworld.com/google_adwords/3849249.htm">WebmasterWorld</a> that shows Google testing a flavor of <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-launches-15561">Google SearchWiki</a> directly on the paid ads, also known as AdWords results.</p>
<p>Here is a screen capture of that in action:</p>
<p><a title="SearchWiki AdWords by rustybrick, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rustybrick/3280319978/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3368/3280319978_158e4f78ab.jpg" alt="SearchWiki AdWords" width="500" height="284" /></a></p>
<p>I have emailed Google for a statement and I will update this post when I receive one.</p>
<p>If you want to discuss this with other SEMs, just the <a href="http://sphinn.com/story.php?id=101400">Sphinn</a> thread.</p>
<p><strong>Postscript:</strong> Here is a statement I received from a Google spokesperson:</p>
<blockquote>As part of our ongoing commitment to innovation, we are currently running an experiment in which users can customize the ads that appear in the &#8220;Sponsored Links&#8221; section of the search results page by deleting ad results. This experimental feature is only visible to a small number of users, and we have no news to announce at this time regarding developments in our AdWords product offering.</blockquote>
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		<title>Google Testing &#8220;Preferred Sites&#8221; Option In Search Preferences</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/google-testing-preferred-sites-option-in-search-preferences-16210</link>
		<comments>http://searchengineland.com/google-testing-preferred-sites-option-in-search-preferences-16210#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry Schwartz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google Operating System discovered a new experiment Google is running named Preferred Sites. In short, users who are in this experiment will be able to add a list of sites in their search preferences page as their &#8220;preferred sites.&#8221; Google will then use that information to show those sites in a higher ranking order in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google Operating System <a href="http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/01/google-preferred-sites.html">discovered</a> a new experiment Google is running named Preferred Sites. In short, users who are in this experiment will be able to add a list of sites in their <a href="http://www.google.com/preferences">search preferences</a> page as their &#8220;preferred sites.&#8221;  Google will then use that information to show those sites in a higher ranking order in the Google results for that user, when it makes sense.  Let me share some examples of how this works.</p>
<p><span id="more-16210"></span>If you set cnn.com to be a preferred site and you are logged in to your Google account and conduct a search for <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=space%20station">space station</a>, Google may bump up a result from CNN to the top of the Google search results.  In addition, Google will clearly label why it is the top result, with a &#8220;My preferred site&#8221; label before the page&#8217;s URL.  Here is a screen capture:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rustybrick/3209891582/" title="Preferred Site Google by rustybrick, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3435/3209891582_0153f0b89d_o.jpg" width="556" height="107" alt="Preferred Site Google" /></a></p>
<p>Google <A href="http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?answer=118281">explains</a> that you must be part of the experiment to see this option in your search preferences.  Personally, I do not see it.  In addition, Google said you can be as specific as a subdomain, so if you want results from CNN, just use cnn.com, but if you want results only from money.cnn.com, you can do that as well.</p>
<p>This does remind me of the <A href="http://www.google.com/coop/">Google Coop</a>, but it&#8217;s clearly different in that the results are not exactly tailored; they are promoted.  In addition, this is an extension of <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-launches-15561">Google&#8217;s SearchWiki</a>.</p>
<p>For additional examples and screen captures, see <a href="http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/01/google-preferred-sites.html">Google Operating System</a>.</p>
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		<title>Does Sound Encourage Searchers To Use SearchWiki?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry Schwartz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Arrington went on a rant about Google testing sound effect in the new Google SearchWiki. In short, Michael is upset that Google would spend the time adding sound effects over adding an option to turn off SearchWiki. I do agree with with Michael on this, but we do know that feature is coming in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Arrington went on <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/18/google-searchwiki-now-has-sound-if-you-choose/">a rant</a> about Google testing sound effect in the new <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-launches-15561.php">Google SearchWiki</a>.  In short, Michael is upset that Google would spend the time adding sound effects over adding an option to turn off SearchWiki.  I do agree with with Michael on this, but we do know that feature <A href="http://searchengineland.com/google-may-use-searchwiki-for-ranking-purposes-15777.php">is coming</A> in early 2009.</p>
<p>But if you watch Michael&#8217;s video, using SearchWiki becomes addictive when you hear the sound effects &#8211; at least to me.  Watch the video:</p>
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<p>I can see searchers hear the sound and then be led to remove or promote more results, because it makes it more fun.</p>
<p>However, I think this is a limited test.  When I tried on both a PC and a Mac, on both Firefox, IE and Safari, I did not hear any sound effects:</p>
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<p>Matt Cutts of Google did <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/18/google-searchwiki-now-has-sound-if-you-choose/#comment-2572019">comment</a> saying sound is not a new thing.  And Matt is right, Philipp Lenssen <a href="http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-11-22-n19.html">reported</a> it back when it first launched.  So this must be a limited test to some users.  I think, if you have SearchWiki on, keep those sound effects.  But clearly, adding a way for a searcher to opt out of the SearchWiki feature is a big win for the Google searcher.</p>
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		<title>Google SearchWiki To Get Off Button, Might Get Used As Ranking Signal</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry Schwartz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[TechCrunch has coverage of Google&#8217;s Marissa Mayer talk at Le Web conference in Paris, France. In that talk, Mayer said SearchWiki will gain an option to let users turn it off and reiterated statements that Google&#8217;s previously made, that SearchWiki data might be used in the future to help rank ordinary search results. After SearchWiki [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TechCrunch has <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/10/google-search-wiki-to-soon-include-an-off-button-thank-you-marissa/">coverage</a> of Google&#8217;s Marissa Mayer talk at Le Web conference in Paris, France.  In that talk, Mayer said <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-101-an-illustrated-guide-15580.php">SearchWiki</a> will gain an option to let users turn it off and reiterated statements that Google&#8217;s previously made, that SearchWiki data might be used in the future to help rank ordinary search results.<span id="more-15777"></span></p>
<p>After SearchWiki launched, a <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-struggling-15593.php">number of bloggers</a> including TechCrunch were vocal in wanting a way to turn the feature off, since once it is enabled, there is no removing it. However, Google <a href="http://searchengineland.com/qa-with-google-on-searchwiki-dont-expect-an-opt-out-soon-15599.php">stuck to its guns</a> that an opt-out wouldn&#8217;t be offered any time soon. Now that&#8217;s changed. Mayer promised to add a way to turn off SearchWiki within the first quarter of next year.</p>
<p>As for ranking, at launch Google <a href="http://searchengineland.com/google-searchwiki-launches-15561.php">said to Search Engine Land</a> and others that SearchWiki might get used to influence rankings in the future, even though it currently is not.</p>
<p>Mayer explained that if &#8220;thousands of people&#8221; would remove a result from a search results page, then it might make sense to remove the page from everyone&#8217;s results.  TechCrunch promised to post a video of the interview with Marissa later, so check the site later for her exact words.</p>
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		<title>Q&amp;A With Google On SearchWiki (Don&#8217;t Expect An Opt-Out Soon)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Four days after it launched, Google SearchWiki continues to attract much attention from critics and fans alike. Meanwhile, there remain questions on how it all works, under the hood. Below, a follow-up to my Google SearchWiki 101: An Illustrated Guide article from last week, answering some of the remaining questions. Oh, and for those looking [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four days after it launched, <a href="../../google-searchwiki-launches-15561.php">Google  SearchWiki</a> continues to attract much attention <a href="../../google-searchwiki-struggling-15593.php">from  critics and fans alike</a>. Meanwhile, there remain questions on how it all  works, under the hood. Below, a follow-up to my <a id="post-15580" href="../../google-searchwiki-101-an-illustrated-guide-15580.php">Google  SearchWiki 101: An Illustrated Guide</a> article from last week, answering some  of the remaining questions. Oh, and for those looking for a SearchWiki opt-out,  the short answer is don&#8217;t expect one anytime soon.<span id="more-15599"></span></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve organized this article as a Q&amp;A, though the questions and answers  are paraphrased from the conversation I had today with Cedric Dupont, Google&#8217;s  SearchWiki product manager; Johanna Wright, Director of Product Management at  Google and Google software engineer Corin Anderson. Any exact quotes are noted  and cited.</p>
<p><strong>SearchWiki should now be showing for everyone who searches at Google and  has their language set to English, correct?</strong></p>
<p>Yes. There are a few cases where people are using proxies or older browsers  and not seeing SearchWiki. In a very tiny number of cases, some accounts might  not have been SearchWiki-enabled. Those still having problems should post a  report to the <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Web_Search_Help">Google Web Search  Help Group</a>.</p>
<p><strong>What happened with SearchWiki disappearing during some of this past  weekend?</strong></p>
<p>That was a hiccup, and we apologize to those users who couldn&#8217;t have their  SearchWiki on Saturday afternoon. We restored it so folks could SearchWiki to  their heart&#8217;s content by Saturday night.</p>
<p><strong>Some people are being quite vocal online about wanting an opt-out from the  feature. Once it is enabled, you&#8217;re stuck with it. Is an opt-out coming?</strong></p>
<p>Dupont said he&#8217;s noted that some people want to turn it off citing &#8220;visual  clutter&#8221; as being a potential problem. However, he said that&#8217;s this seems far  from a universal complaint:</p>
<p>&#8220;Before we launched SearchWiki, hundreds of thousands of people tested it and  the feedback was positive. We&#8217;ve also used this feedback to improve SearchWiki  along the way.&#8221;</p>
<p>But why not just let people opt-out if they want to, as they can opt-out from  other Google products &#8212; or how they can use the <a href="http://www.google.com/preferences">search preferences page</a> to control  number of results shown, popping-open search listings in their own windows,  enabling subscribed links and other options.</p>
<p>&#8220;While users don&#8217;t have the option of turning off SearchWiki, they do have  the option not to use the feature. By turning off the feature entirely, people  will never get used to the new offering or see how it might be useful to them.  We encourage people to try it out,&#8221; Dupont said.</p>
<p>I suppose. To some degree, we saw this after <a href="../../google-universal-search-2008-edition-13256.php">Google  Universal Search</a> rolled out last year. Some people kept asking for a way to  turn it off. Today, I rarely hear that voiced.</p>
<p><a href="../../google-search-history-expands-becomes-web-history-11016.php">Google  personalized search</a> is a better example. Some people &#8212; especially search  marketers &#8212; wanted a way to toggle it on or off. Google didn&#8217;t care. At best,  it <a href="../../easy-way-to-turn-off-google-personalized-results-11435.php">advised</a> a way to hack out the URL as a way to do it. Various third party tools are out  there that allow this, as well.</p>
<p>Google recently rolled out search customization notices, which allow you to  &#8220;toggle off&#8221; results when they are tailored to previous queries or geographic  data. But when it comes to personalized search &#8212; something where some people  have been actively requesting a similar on/off toggle &#8212; that&#8217;s not provided. As  I <a href="../../google-now-notifies-of-search-customization-gives-searchers-control-14485.php">wrote  in my story about the search customization notices</a>:</p>
<blockquote>I wish next to the More Details option that Google would have also just  placed a &#8220;Pause&#8221; button, so that personalized results could be paused and  &#8220;normal&#8221; results viewed easily, without requiring a log-out.</blockquote>
<p>I can understand the logic in forcing people to use something rather than  letting them immediately opt-out, if you&#8217;re convinced it&#8217;s better for them. As I  joked with Google on the call, it&#8217;s the kind of argument I&#8217;ll do with my kids  when they say they don&#8217;t want to go to something like ski school. I send them  anyway, despite the complaints, and in the end, they&#8217;re glad they know how to  ski.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s also the public relations problem Google faces, in not offering an  opt-out to those who want it. Google comes across as some type of parent telling  its children that it knows best. But its users (mostly) aren&#8217;t children, and no  one want to be treated like one. Google should offer the opt-out, both to solve  the PR issue and because I think it would be the right thing to do for even  those few users out there who don&#8217;t want this.</p>
<p>All hope isn&#8217;t lost. Dupont said that Google will watch usage closely. If  they detect many people might want an opt-out option, then it still might come  down the line. &#8220;Based on a few days of feedback, we don&#8217;t want to rush into  changing this.&#8221;</p>
<p>What type of measurements will indicate this need &#8212; a mass increase in  people staying signed out of Google? Google simply said it had a wide variety of  &#8220;user-happiness metrics&#8221; that it monitors.</p>
<p>FYI, those who want a third-party solution can use the <a href="http://www.facesaerch.com/blog/disable-google-search-wiki/">SearchWiki  On/Off</a> Greasemonkey script for Firefox to toggle SearchWiki on and off.</p>
<p><strong>It looks like it would be easy for people to flood a public SearchWiki  notes page with submissions of pages all from the same web site. Are you  considering clustering results similar to web search, where only one or two  listings from the same domain will show?</strong></p>
<p>We&#8217;ll take a look at that.</p>
<p><strong>Are you considering a browsable guide to all the SearchWiki notes? Perhaps  a way to drill into pages by topic or see the most popular SearchWiki notes by  views or save activity?</strong></p>
<p>No &#8220;table of contents&#8221; style page like that exists today. That sounds like a  fun feature to have, but we wanted to focus on getting the core functionality  launched. But a &#8220;What is the world doing with SearchWiki&#8221; page might come in the  future.</p>
<p><strong>How come I cannot see all comments that have been made even when clicking  on the comments link?</strong></p>
<p>Currently we only show a limited number of comments, and it will take a bit  of time before we provide a way to browse all of them.</p>
<p><strong>Is it me, or was the delete comment option not working?</strong></p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t you. It&#8217;s working now.</p>
<p><strong>Can you explain more about how the thumb-up / thumb-down icons work with  comments?</strong></p>
<p>These are ways to give us feedback about a comment, separately from the  extreme option of reporting a comment as inappropriate. Thumbing up doesn&#8217;t mean  a comment will go to the top of the list for you or anyone; thumbing down  doesn&#8217;t mean a comment will be removed. However, thumb voting is used as part of  many signals in determining the order of comments.</p>
<p><strong>So clicking thumbs down doesn&#8217;t report a comment for review?</strong></p>
<p>No, it only makes a separate &#8220;<a href="http://www.google.com/support/contact/bin/request.py?contact_type=anno">Flag  as inappropriate comment</a>&#8221; link appear. To then report a comment, you have to  click on that link and fill in a form.</p>
<p><strong>So what&#8217;s considered an inappropriate?</strong></p>
<p>Things might include spam, unauthorized copyrighted content, abusive or  objectionable content, illegal content or advocating hate or violence. However,  people can also note other reasons. If enough people flag a comment, we may  remove it.</p>
<p><strong>What determines the top comment shown? Is it most recent, as it seems to  be?</strong></p>
<p>There are many different signals that come into play.</p>
<p><strong>There are already concerns about comments, such as <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/22/google-searchwiki-is-back-heres-how-to-kill-it-for-good/">this</a> spam comment that made a TV sex station&#8217;s URL that showed up under the  TechCrunch listing on the <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=techcrunch&amp;swm=2">SearchWiki public  notes page</a> for TechCrunch. What are you doing about this?</strong></p>
<p>We&#8217;re no longer displaying any comments by default, which we think will  help.</p>
<p><strong>How about issues where people might pretend to be other people and make  recommendations in comments, such as <a href="http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/google-approved-seo.html">here</a> where it  looks like Google&#8217;s Matt Cutts is endorsing a particular web site when in  reality, it&#8217;s just someone with a Google account using his name.</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;d emailed this one to Google after our talk today, and they sent back:</p>
<blockquote>This is a lot like what you see on the web already: anyone can choose to sign  a comment &#8220;Danny.&#8221; It&#8217;s up to the reader to decide how to interpret this source.</p>
<p>And as Matt <a href="http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/google-approved-seo.html">responded</a> to  this in the comments section of this specific blog: &#8220;That&#8217;s pretty funny, but  it&#8217;s not unique. I&#8217;ve also seen fake blog comments, fake MySpace pages, and fake  MyBlogLog people where people pretended to be me.&#8221;</blockquote>
<p>Note that &#8220;Matt Cutts&#8221; comments twice in that post. The first one probably is  him; the second isn&#8217;t. And agreed, it is possible for anyone to imitate anyone  else. But then again, Google made an exceptionally large issue <a href="../../googles-knol-launches-like-wikipedia-with-moderation-14434.php">in  launching Knol</a> that it wanted to help people know the &#8220;real&#8221; people who  stood behind content.</p>
<p>With it now allowing comments to be associated with search listings &#8212; on  pages that might have more circulation than Knol itself &#8212; perhaps its worth a  rethink in allowing unverified comments to exist. At the very least, the names  of those commenting should be hyperlinked back to the Google user profile pages.  At the moment, they are not.</p>
<p><strong>It feels like for all the benefits to SearchWiki, you&#8217;ve created something  of a new online PR reputation nightmare for people to worry about. Anyone can  comment about anything, and there&#8217;s no real filtering that seems to go on. Any  thoughts, advice or comments to those who are concerned?</strong></p>
<p>This was another one I sent after the initial interview, and Google emailed  back:</p>
<blockquote>In terms of advice, the need for websites to be vigilant about what people  say about them – and on them – long precedes SearchWiki, and is as old as the  web itself.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve always been supportive of tools that allow people to better express  themselves online, and SearchWiki is no exception.</p>
<p>At the same time, in cases where people express themselves improperly or  illegally against websites, we&#8217;ve made simple tools readily available for  websites so they can take action appropriately.</blockquote>
<p><strong>Are there plans to make it easier for people to delete items they&#8217;ve voted  on or commented on in SearchWiki rather than having to individually &#8220;restore&#8221; or  &#8220;delete comment&#8221; for each item?</strong></p>
<p>We&#8217;ll look at actual usage, and if it looks like many people are trying to  erase what they&#8217;ve done this way, we&#8217;ll take action to make it easier.</p>
<p><strong>Right now, you show what someone searched for if they comment on a URL,  even if that URL is showing up for a different search. As I <a href="../../google-searchwiki-101-an-illustrated-guide-15580.php">wrote</a>,  there might be a privacy issue with this. Might this change?</strong></p>
<p>The problem is, in these situations, if we don&#8217;t show the original query, the  comment might not make sense in context.</p>
<p><strong>What determines the order of how things are listed on public SearchWiki  notes pages? It doesn’t appear to be most voted items come first. Instead, it  feels more like things are ordered so that the first thing voted on has a better  chance to be at the top of the list.</strong></p>
<p>Much like the main search results page, we&#8217;re not talking much about how  ranking works. However, voting is a key factor. You can see results at the top  of these pages are the ones that many people have voted to the top of their own  results and those not as high may have been removed.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re also still looking at the quality of the signals we use. Over time, we  think the results in the public SearchWiki pages will get much cleaner, and  quality will improve.</p>
<p><strong>Why not show the names of those voting up certain pages, to help make it  clear if there&#8217;s vote gaming going on?</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting idea, and we thought about that early on. We&#8217;ve tried to  strike a balance between privacy and sharing. I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll continue to explore  the idea.</p>
<p><strong>I appreciate the ability to save items I spot within search results. But  why not give me a &#8220;Save&#8221; feature or make <a href="http://www.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=34307&amp;topic=8994">Google  Bookmarks</a> enabled in the search listings. It feels weird that I have to make  something shoot to the top of the search results when I only really mean to  remember it.</strong></p>
<p>We did consider a save feature, and both saving and voting up are valid. We  choose to go with the voting up for SearchWiki. But again, we are definitely  listening to user feedback to help improve the feature.</p>
<p><strong>How are people using it so far? Are they going to the public SearchWiki  notes pages or more using it to keep a personal record?</strong></p>
<p>The overwhelming majority of the use is on the [personal] search results page  rather than the &#8220;All SearchWiki edits page&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s Google&#8217;s goal in offering this?</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a new way to empower users. You can remember answers to repeat queries.  It lets you add your personal touch to our algorithms,&#8221; Wright said.</p>
<p><strong>How about the community aspect?</strong></p>
<p>We expect to see a few new things happening and some of them may involve  communities that could evolve around certain topics or searches. Right now,  we&#8217;ve given out a tool and are letting people use it in the way that makes the  most sense for them,&#8221; said Dupont.</p>
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