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		<title>Another 5 Search Tools You May Not Know &#8230; But Should</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt McGee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wouldn&#8217;t it be great if you could use a search engine without needing to touch your mouse? You know, type your query and then scan and even click through to results without actually clicking the mouse button? Or maybe you&#8217;re looking for an alternate source of search advertising data, like how many advertisers are bidding [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fanother-5-search-tools-18248"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fanother-5-search-tools-18248" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be great if you could use a search engine without needing to touch your mouse? You know, type your query and then scan and even click through to results without actually clicking the mouse button? Or maybe you&#8217;re looking for an alternate source of search advertising data, like how many advertisers are bidding on certain keywords. Or maybe you&#8217;re into something more mundane, like finding an apartment to call home. </p>
<p>In this roundup of five search tools you may not know about, I&#8217;ll introduce you to possible answers to those questions and a couple more. This is the third in my occasional series that profiles under-the-radar search tools. If you missed the previous two, links to those are at the end. But let&#8217;s start with that mouse-free search tool&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>keyboardr</strong></p>
<p>For some, the computer mouse is nothing more than an inconvenience. <em>Take my hand off the keyboard? No thanks!</em> <a href="http://keyboardr.com/">keyboardr</a> was invented for people like that. It&#8217;s a meta search engine that pulls in results from Google, Wikipedia, and YouTube.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/23148333@N06/3484769137/" title="keyboardr by Search Engine Land, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3413/3484769137_d9d708da5a.jpg" width="500" height="269" alt="keyboardr" /></a></p>
<p>Results begin to appear on the page as you type a query, and once you&#8217;re done, the mouse is unnecessary. You can use the up and down arrow keys to navigate from one search result to the next, and hit Enter to open the result in a new window. </p>
<p><strong>AdQuants</strong></p>
<p>This one is for the search marketing crowd. <a href="http://www.adquants.com/">AdQuants</a> is a tool that offers competitive research related to any keyword or URL you provide. If you use or have seen SpyFu, you&#8217;ll be familiar with what AdQuants does. (One difference is that AdQuants is a free service that aims to make money via custom research.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/23148333@N06/3485583844/" title="AdQuants by Search Engine Land, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3644/3485583844_c5329579b7.jpg" width="500" height="306" alt="AdQuants" /></a></p>
<p>The screenshot shows an AdQuants search for &#8220;sunscreen,&#8221; and the data includes the number of advertisers bidding on that term, and estimates for average CPC, average daily clicks, and related information.</p>
<p><strong>Tweepz</strong></p>
<p>You might be thinking that we don&#8217;t need another Twitter search engine, but <a href="http://tweepz.com/">Tweepz</a> is a bit different from ones I&#8217;ve come across, and it&#8217;s already helped me find new people to follow. It&#8217;s a search tool to find Twitter users, and it offers more functionality than I&#8217;ve seen in other Twitter user search engines. One option is to search based on location, and Tweepz quickly found several people local to my area that I&#8217;d never found on other Twitter search sites.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/23148333@N06/3484769311/" title="Tweepz by Search Engine Land, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3632/3484769311_4da9f191ff.jpg" width="500" height="296" alt="Tweepz" /></a></p>
<p>After doing a search you can sort your results by number of followers, number following, or join date. In the right column, there are additional refinements and an RSS feed for your search results. In addition to location-based search, Tweepz lets you search Twitter member names and bios. Good stuff.</p>
<p><strong>123people.com</strong></p>
<p>Whether you&#8217;re searching for another person, or searching on your own name, you might be impressed with the wide variety of data that <a href="http://www.123people.com/">123people.com</a> pulls together on a single page. A search for my name includes photos (from Facebook, Flickr, Picasa, and other sources) &#8230; email addresses (mine, and some from other Matt McGees) &#8230; phone numbers (not mine, thankfully) &#8230; web links &#8230; videos &#8230; blog posts and news articles mentioning my name &#8230; the Amazon page selling my U2 book and my Amazon wish list &#8230; and much more.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/23148333@N06/3485584038/" title="123people.com by Search Engine Land, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3360/3485584038_2affa2d290.jpg" width="500" height="293" alt="123people.com" /></a></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re searching for a common name, 123people.com lets you narrow your search by including a city name or zip code. There are a few too many advertisements on the search results page for my taste, but it&#8217;s still an interesting people search engine.</p>
<p><strong>MyApartmentMap</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.myapartmentmap.com/">MyApartmentMap</a> is a search mashup that pulls in apartment rental data from online classified sites and color codes them by price on a Google Maps interface. The site promises &#8220;up to the minute reports&#8221; for the entire U.S. The interface includes a drag-and-drop marker (see below) that simplifies the process of finding apartments by price in specific cities and neighborhoods.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/23148333@N06/3484769607/" title="MyApartmentMap by Search Engine Land, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3413/3484769607_734f0a7710.jpg" width="500" height="309" alt="MyApartmentMap" /></a></p>
<p>The search results pages also show average apartment rental prices for the most recent month, as well as a chart showing 6-month trends for rental prices. Based on a few searches I did, the data appears to be quite good in bigger cities but more hit-and-miss when you get to smaller locales.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> <a href="http://www.fansnap.com/">FanSnap</a>, an event ticketing search engine I profiled previously in this series, is now out of beta. New features since our previous mention include the ability to see available tickets by zooming to row level at venues, as well as a partnership that adds available tickets from eBay into FanSnap&#8217;s search results.</p>
<p><strong>See also:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/7-search-tools-you-may-not-know-but-should-15198">7 Search Tools You May Not Know &#8230; But Should</a>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/5-more-search-tools-15962">5 (More) Search Tools You May Not Know &#8230; But Should</a>
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		<title>Hoping To Improve People Search, Google Launches &#8220;Profile Results&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ever searched for yourself on Google and come away dissatisfied, especially  if someone else you share a name with seems to dominate the results? Ever looked  for someone else and been disappointed that you couldn&#8217;t find the person you  wanted? Google&#8217;s new &#8220;Profile Results&#8221; launching today aim to correct both  problems.
Since [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fgoogle-profile-results-launched-17865"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fgoogle-profile-results-launched-17865" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Ever searched for yourself on Google and come away dissatisfied, especially  if someone else you share a name with seems to dominate the results? Ever looked  for someone else and been disappointed that you couldn&#8217;t find the person you  wanted? Google&#8217;s new &#8220;Profile Results&#8221; <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/search-for-me-on-google.html">launching</a> today aim to correct both  problems.</p>
<p><a href="../../google-unifying-and-putting-more-emphasis-on-profiles-12945">Since  the end of 2007</a>, Google has allowed people to create <a href="http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=97703">Google  Profile pages</a> for use with certain Google services. For example, if you  created content in Google Maps, your Google Profile <a href="http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2007/10/put-yourself-on-map.html">let  you share</a> who you were with others using that service. The same profile also  served to identify you when using the completely different Google Reader  service.</p>
<p>Now Google Profiles are going beyond Google&#8217;s own services. They&#8217;re being  promoted as a way for people to tell the world who they are and, to some degree,  being offered as a way for people to claim their identity in Google&#8217;s main  search results.</p>
<p>&#8220;People have no control over how they appear when other people search for  them on Google. That&#8217;s a big issue we&#8217;ve heard,&#8221; said Joe Kraus, a director of  product management at Google. &#8220;The new results are to better control what people  see and improve the ability for people to fine what they&#8217;re looking for.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the new system, a new &#8220;Profile results&#8221; section will appear at the bottom  of a Google search page, when it finds a strong match in response to a  name-based search. Up to four profiles will be shown:</p>
<p><a title="Google Profiles In Search Results by search-engine-land, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/searchengineland/3461559771/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3536/3461559771_53b4199122.jpg" alt="Google Profiles In Search Results" width="500" height="137" /></a></p>
<p>You can also search directly for profiles <a href="http://www.google.com/profiles?q=">here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Building Your Profile Page</strong></p>
<p>The profiles all come from Google Profile pages, which means in order for a  chance to appear, you&#8217;ve got to have a page. That&#8217;s fairly easy. There&#8217;s no  charge to have a page, and you needn&#8217;t use any particular Google services,  either. Just sign-up <a href="http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?answer=97703&amp;hl=en">here</a>. You can also search for &#8220;<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=me">me</a>&#8221; on Google, and if you&#8217;re signed-in, you&#8217;ll see an option promoting how to make your own profile.</p>
<p>After signing-up, you can provide a variety of information about yourself,  including:</p>
<ul>
<li>Your picture</li>
<li>Your first and/or last name</li>
<li>Nickname</li>
<li>Where you grew up</li>
<li>Where you live</li>
<li>Where you work</li>
<li>Schools you&#8217;ve attended</li>
<li>A biography</li>
<li>Links to web sites you wish to list</li>
<li>Pictures from your Picasa, Flickr or other online photo albums</li>
<li>Contact information, which can be shared selectively with people</li>
</ul>
<p>Not all of these options were offered when Profile pages were first launched.  The pages have gained more features over time, and the new additions have been  pretty poorly communicated, I&#8217;d say. If you&#8217;re like me, you&#8217;ve probably had a  fairly bare display.</p>
<p>The new system will cause many people to reexamine their profiles, as they  hope to appear in Google&#8217;s main results. But with only four spaces, some names  will be competitive. Which ones will show? Those that Google feels are  &#8220;comprehensive enough,&#8221; Kraus said.</p>
<p>Does that mean you need to fill out all the fields, including what your  &#8220;superpower&#8221; is? No. Kraus said there are no hard-and-fast rules, especially  since the system&#8217;s ranking criteria are likely to change over time. But for now,  those who at least fill out the form with their first and last name (<a href="http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/bin/answer.py?answer=113021">this  is the basic requirement</a>), along with a few links to content, will probably  increase the odds of appearing.</p>
<p><strong>Profile Page Options: From Job Title To Links</strong></p>
<p>As an example of what you can do, here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/113217924531763968801">my profile</a>,  which until yesterday had only consisted of my photo, my name and a few links.  I&#8217;ve pimped it up since then:</p>
<p><a title="Danny Sullivan's Profile by search-engine-land, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/searchengineland/3462374988/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3462374988_95321f72e8.jpg" alt="Danny Sullivan's Profile" width="500" height="291" /></a></p>
<p>Below, you can see how information in my profile&#8217;s &#8220;What I do&#8221; box gets  combined with the &#8220;Current Company&#8221; box to form a job title below my name. Under  that, the &#8220;Where I live now&#8221; box is used to show my location. All this is done  using the <a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/me/editprofile">Edit Profile  option</a>:</p>
<p><a title="Adding Job Title, Location To Google Profiles by search-engine-land, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/searchengineland/3461559627/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3520/3461559627_859b14f3ce.jpg" alt="Adding Job Title, Location To Google Profiles" width="500" height="356" /></a></p>
<p>Whatever you put in these boxes will appear. There&#8217;s no attempt to verify  that you really do have a job title that you claim to hold or that you work for  a particular company. However, there is an <a href="http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=97707">option</a> for others to report profiles that they feel are inappropriate.</p>
<p>As for my biography, I used the &#8220;Short bio&#8221; box to enter what I wanted to  appear. This box even allows you to add links to your bio:</p>
<p><a title="Adding A Bio To Google Profiles by search-engine-land, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/searchengineland/3462375076/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3546/3462375076_8910a334d0.jpg" alt="Adding A Bio To Google Profiles" width="424" height="241" /></a></p>
<p>For those wondering, so far, these appear to be straight links that do pass  <a href="../../what-is-google-pagerank-a-guide-for-searchers-webmasters-11068">PageRank</a>.  The nofollow attribute is not used, nor do I see other blocking, so potentially  anyone can use their Google profile for link building efforts. I suspect that  nofollow will come down the line.</p>
<p>Speaking of links, you&#8217;ll notice that in the upper right-hand corner of my  profile are several links I&#8217;ve listed. These are added using the Links area of  your edit profile page:</p>
<p><a title="Adding Links To Google Profiles by search-engine-land, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/searchengineland/3461559701/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3620/3461559701_b009bdecb3.jpg" alt="Adding Links To Google Profiles" width="500" height="190" /></a></p>
<p>You can add any links you like. However, Google will also suggest some for  you. Sometimes it can tell from information you&#8217;ve entered what links might be  related to you, using the <a href="../../mine-the-webs-socially-tagged-links-google-social-graph-api-launched-13277">Google  Social Graph</a>. Or enter your <a href="http://friendfeed.com/">FriendFeed</a> link, and it will suggest other services you&#8217;ve told FriendFeed about.</p>
<p>As mentioned, you can also add a photo strip to your profile, pulling in  pictures from public albums on Google&#8217;s Picasa, Yahoo&#8217;s Flickr or any URL that  provides a photo feed. Just use the Photos tab to do this.</p>
<p><strong>Verified Names &amp; Emails</strong></p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s look at two special things showing on my profile, that I have a  &#8220;Verified name&#8221; and a &#8220;Verified email,&#8221; as shown below:</p>
<p><a title="Verified Information On Google Profiles by search-engine-land, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/searchengineland/3462375116/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3593/3462375116_3d3cb5b438.jpg" alt="Verified Information On Google Profiles" width="500" height="64" /></a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t go looking on your profile page for the option on how to verify your  name. It&#8217;s not there. Instead, to have a verified name, you need to enroll in  the Google Knol service and verify your name there (see <a href="../../google-knol-googles-play-to-aggregate-knowledge-pages-12930">Google  Knol &#8211; Google’s Play To Aggregate Knowledge Pages</a>). If you&#8217;ve done that, you  get a verified name. If not, you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s crazy, but it&#8217;s also a symptom of how piecemeal Google&#8217;s entire profile  system feels to have developed over the past year. It&#8217;s as if Google drove its  social networking car out onto the racetrack back in 2007 to chase after  Facebook <a href="../../google-the-stealth-social-network-13027">but  kept adding parts to it during the race</a>, without stopping.</p>
<p>Should you get a verified name? Right now, it doesn&#8217;t influence whether your  profile will rank better in profile results. But if you&#8217;re trying to convince  people to trust that the page is really controlled by you, it probably makes  sense.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the verified email. The idea here is that you&#8217;ve shown Google  that you can send email from a given domain. For example, if you claimed to work  for Microsoft, the system allows you to prove that you&#8217;ve received email from an  address at microsoft.com. Or as the help page <a href="http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=86635">says</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>When people who know you visit your profile and see, for example, your  school&#8217;s domain name, they&#8217;ll be able to know that it&#8217;s the real you on your  profile.</p></blockquote>
<p>As for those who only have email from a free service, such as Yahoo, Hotmail  or even Google&#8217;s own Gmail, they&#8217;re out of luck. These services aren&#8217;t seen as  trustworthy enough to allow for verification.</p>
<p>While I understand that concern, I also find it odd. If many people start  having verified email addresses, then it suggests those who don&#8217;t have profiles  with verified emails are somehow less trustworthy. And since the entire Profile  results system is designed in part to help those with less &#8220;net presence,&#8221; as  Kraus called it, to have a shot of appearing in Google&#8217;s results, it&#8217;s  unfortunate they get discriminated in this way.</p>
<p>Of course, as with verified names, verified email addresses don&#8217;t mean you&#8217;ll  rank better. Those unverified folks have just as good of chance of coming up as  the verified people. It just from a perception standpoint, they might have  profiles that seem less trustworthy.</p>
<p><strong>Vanity URLs For Profiles</strong></p>
<p>Your profile is a web page, and that means it has its own URL. By default,  your URL will be a long string of numbers. For example, my profile is here:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/113217924531763968801">http://www.google.com/profiles/113217924531763968801</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, last week there was a <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/090415/p5#a090415p5">great flurry</a> when <a href="http://www.labnol.org/internet/vanity-url-for-google-profiles/8202/">it  was noted</a> that Google started allowing profiles to have &#8220;vanity URLs.&#8221; Want  a URL that uses your own name? You can have it.</p>
<p>Sort of.</p>
<p>It turns out that vanity URL must be the same as your Gmail address. In other  words, whatever your address is on Gmail, that&#8217;s going to be your address in  your vanity URL. If my Gmail address began emperorzorg, then I&#8217;d have a vanity  URL that looked like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>google.com/profiles/emperorzorg</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh joy. If you have a Gmail account, and you claim your vanity URL, then you  expose you email address to the world. Google explicitly warns you that this can  happen, but it&#8217;s still pretty sucky. Why not operate the way that Google&#8217;s  YouTube does or Yahoo&#8217;s Flickr, where you can have a username that is different  than your email address?</p>
<p>Kraus said that Google is trying to have a unified namespace, where everyone  has one name with Google and things are kept as simple as possible. That means  using your Gmail name as your profile&#8217;s URL.</p>
<p>But wait! Life certainly isn&#8217;t so simple at Google. I actually have at least  two active Google accounts, one of which isn&#8217;t linked to Gmail at all. I think I  got that one by signing up for AdWords or some other service before Gmail  existed. I&#8217;m also far from the only person in this situation, given I&#8217;ve seen  ample Google help pages over time on how to transfer a particular service  between different Google accounts.</p>
<p>And that non-Gmail account? The good news is that I can use that to get a  vanity URL of my choosing. That&#8217;s right. Any Google Account not linked with  Gmail can set the URL to whatever name they want, assuming that name is  free.</p>
<p>Of course, this means that if you have an existing account, you&#8217;d have to  find a way to move some of your services over to the new one (not always easy or  even possible). You might also find the name you want isn&#8217;t free. And behind the  scenes, if you ever do get a Gmail account? Whatever name you picked will be  your Gmail address, Kraus said.</p>
<p>Clearly I&#8217;m grumpy over all this. I wish Google had let people pick whatever  names they wanted for their URLs and kept it separate from Gmail addresses. But  that&#8217;s how things are.</p>
<p><strong>Choosing What To Reveal</strong></p>
<p>Unlike with Facebook, there&#8217;s no granular control over what you share with  the world on your profile. If you list where you grew up, everyone will see that  rather than you selectively deciding to share it with just friends or family.  It&#8217;s all or nothing. So don&#8217;t put anything on your page that you&#8217;re not  comfortable sharing &#8212; which is easy, since nothing other than your first and  last name is required to show up in search results.</p>
<p>An exception to sharing relates to <a href="http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=136059">Contact  Info</a>. This is an area where you can list your email addresses, street  addresses, phone numbers, IM addresses and your birthday. You can selectively  decide which of your friends to share this information with, and you can create  groups of friends.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s all this play out in the Google-Facebook saga? With most of Facebook&#8217;s  searches being people-oriented, is this Google trying to take on Facebook in the  <a href="http://searchengineland.com/library/search-engines/search-engines-people-search">people search space</a>?</p>
<p>&#8220;We already are a people search engine, in that people search for people all  the time on Google, so we&#8217;re trying to improve it,&#8221; Kraus said.</p>
<p><a href="../../facebook-one-of-the-top-search-engines-i-dunno-about-that-11646">True  enough</a>. And the change should be welcomed by many. I&#8217;ve regularly gotten  email from people wondering how they could show up better for their names,  especially in cases where there&#8217;s unflattering information about them. Yahoo was  <a href="../../yahoo-sued-for-showing-spam-pages-about-beverly-16601">recently  sued</a> in one case. Personal reputation management is an entirely different  issue &#8212; but even in those cases, there&#8217;s a core of the person wanting to be  able to speak for themselves in the search results. The Google Profile results  offer a new opportunity for this to happen.</p>
<p>For more, see related discussion <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/090421/p74#a090421p74">on Techmeme</a>.</p>
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		<title>Find Friends On Twitter With Twitter People Search</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/find-friends-on-twitter-with-twitter-people-search-15947</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry Schwartz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Twitter announced that you can now use their people search feature to find friends, family or colleagues that are using Twitter.
For example, I wanted to see if any of my immediate family is on Twitter, so I searched for schwartz.  It looks like I am the most popular Schwartz on Twitter (ahem).  But [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Ffind-friends-on-twitter-with-twitter-people-search-15947"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Ffind-friends-on-twitter-with-twitter-people-search-15947" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Twitter <a href="http://blog.twitter.com/2008/12/finding-nemoor-name-search-is-back.html">announced</a> that you can now use their <a href="http://twitter.com/search/users">people search</a> feature to find friends, family or colleagues that are using Twitter.</p>
<p>For example, I wanted to see if any of my immediate family is on Twitter, so I searched for <a href="http://twitter.com/search/users?q=schwartz">schwartz</a>.  It looks like <a href="http://twitter.com/rustybrick">I am</a> the most popular Schwartz on Twitter (ahem).  But it does list another 233 people with the name Schwartz, so I will scan through them to see if I know anyone.</p>
<p><span id="more-15947"></span><a title="Twitter People Search by rustybrick, on Flickr" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rustybrick/3133391546/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/3133391546_39e6de00c6.jpg" alt="Twitter People Search" width="500" height="260" /></a></p>
<p>I do wish there was an RSS flavor for this search, so I can track particular names.  But the normal <a href="http://search.twitter.com/">Twitter Search</a> has RSS, so that works.</p>
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		<title>McCain Using Google To Vet VP Candidates</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/mccain-using-google-to-vet-vp-candidates-14173</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Sterling</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Search & Society: General]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Search Engines: People Search]]></category>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fmccain-using-google-to-vet-vp-candidates-14173"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fmccain-using-google-to-vet-vp-candidates-14173" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>According to <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080609/wr_nm/usa_politics_mccain_google_dc">Reuters</a>, presumptive Republican nominee John McCain is using Google as a tool to do background checks on potential running mates: &#8220;You know, basically it&#8217;s a Google,&#8221; he said to laughter at a fund-raising luncheon when asked how the selection process was going. &#8220;What you can find out now on the Internet &#8212; it&#8217;s remarkable.&#8221;</p>
<p><span id="more-14173"></span>
Here&#8217;s what he might find on four top potential Republican VP candidates:</p>
<p>&#8211;<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Charlie+Crist&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;aq=t&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;client=firefox-a">Charlie Crist</a>, governor of Florida
&#8211;<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Mitt+Romney&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;aq=t&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;client=firefox-a">Mitt Romney</a>, the former Massachusetts governor
&#8211;Louisiana Gov. <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Bobby+Jindal&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;aq=t&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;client=firefox-a">Bobby Jindal</a>
&#8211;Kansas <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Sen.+Sam+Brownback&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;aq=t&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;client=firefox-a">Sen. Sam Brownback</a></p>
<p>If McCain gets tired of conventional search engines, he can always try specialized &#8220;<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070912-085314.php">people search&#8221; engines</a>.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo Including Facebook Profile Images In Search Results</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/yahoo-including-facebook-profile-images-in-search-results-13830</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Sterling</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Facebook]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Search Engines: People Search]]></category>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fyahoo-including-facebook-profile-images-in-search-results-13830"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fyahoo-including-facebook-profile-images-in-search-results-13830" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>The Digital Inspiration blog <a href="http://www.labnol.org/internet/search/yahoo-search-facebook-profile-images/3027/">is reporting</a> that Facebook profile images are now appearing as thumbnails in general Yahoo search results (as opposed to image search results).</p>
<p>I tried several times to find the images, using different people&#8217;s names along with related phrases including &#8220;Facebook profile,&#8221; and was unable to duplicate the results. (Google has been including Facebook <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070905-095657.php">Profile data in search results</a> for some time.)</p>
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		<title>PEW Survey Finds Most People Don&#8217;t Google Themselves That Often, After All</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/pew-survey-finds-most-people-dont-google-themselves-that-often-after-all-12952</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vanessa Fox</dc:creator>
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<img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/472387340_c67c88daca_o.jpg" alt="Marge Simpson Using Google" border="0" height="240" width="370"></a>
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070425-082223.php"><font size="1">Marge Simpson Googling Herself</a>
&quot;All this time I thought &#8216;googling&#8217; yourself meant the other thing.&quot;</font></p>
<p>A <a href="http://www.pewinternet.org/PPF/r/229/report_display.asp">PEW/Internet Survey</a> out this week found that 47% of internet users have done ego searches, up from 22% five years ago. That nearly half of internet users are searching for themselves seems excessive, but only 3% say they check regularly. Most (74% of those who have done such searches) have only checked once or twice. As our use of the internet decreases our privacy, the study also found that most internet users don&#8217;t find this to be a concern. 61% of adults don&#8217;t feel they need to limit the amount of information found out about them online. Only 38% have taken steps to do so.</p>
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It makes sense that most people don&#8217;t <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070425-082223.php">search for themselves</a> regularly, as they probably don&#8217;t make internet news often enough for the results to change much. However, as more companies, landlords, and dates use search in addition to or in lieu of background checks, it may be smart for everyone to everyone to &#8220;google&#8221; themselves periodically to make sure those pictures of that one party never made it online. Reputation management companies have so far focused on businesses and people who are newsmakers, but maybe they should start offering regularly monitoring services up to everyone, like credit reporting services do: www.freereputationmonitoringreport.com.</p>
<p><strong>Is More Information Available Than People Realize?</strong>
Internet users don&#8217;t worry about what&#8217;s online about them in part because they don&#8217;t realize what might be out there. A quarter to a third think personal information like address and phone number might be online, and only 25% think pictures and written information is available. However, approximately 225 million adults are in the United States (and around 150 million of those are internet users) and whitepages.com, for instance, has contact information for 180 million of them (approximately 80% of the U.S. population). So, more people have more information available about them online than they may realize.</p>
<p>The study found four types of internet users:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>17%</strong> of online adults actively contribute content online, but don&#8217;t worry about limiting what&#8217;s associated with them.</li>
<li><strong>21%</strong> of online adults worry about what&#8217;s available online and actively take steps to limit it.</li>
<li><strong>18% </strong>of online adults are concerned about their online visibility, but don&#8217;t limit what&#8217;s found.</li>
<li><strong>43%</strong> of online adults don&#8217;t think much about online privacy and don&#8217;t worry about it, limit it, or spend much time creating content about themselves online.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Nothing to Be Worried About?</strong>
Maybe people are right not to be concerned. 61% aren&#8217;t worried, which tracks well with the 62% who find what they expect when they do an ego search. Only 4% have had bad experiences related to information found about them online. 87% percent say that what they find is accurate, up from 74% five years ago.</p>
<p>Interestingly though, 85% of those surveyed said that it&#8217;s &#8220;very important&#8221; to control who accesses their personal information. This seemingly conflicting set of feelings likely means that online properties such as search engines and social networking sites are wise to offer users a high level of control over their information, as it provides peace of mind, but these properties shouldn&#8217;t be too concerned that most users will fully take advantage of these controls.</p>
<p>Social networking sites and search engines are increasingly offering control to users. Wink.com, a people search engine, <a href="http://blog.wink.com/2007/major-update-to-wink-people-search/">recently added a social networking component</a> that enables users to control the information gathered about them. <a href="http://www.whitepagesinc.com/press_releases/pr-2007-12-10.html">Whitepages.com recently announced</a> a similar initiative that will enable people to add, correct, hide, and delete information about themselves starting next year.</p>
<p>The study did find one group who cares very much about what is known about them online. 10% of those they surveyed have jobs that require them to market themselves online. 68% of those with an &#8220;online persona&#8221; search for themselves.</p>
<p><strong>Searching For Others</strong>
More people have searched for others than for themselves. 53% of online adults have searched for family, friends, colleagues, or prospective dates, although only 7% do this regularly. 36% have looked for people from their past and 9% have searched for information on people they are dating. The most popular type of people search is for contact information (72%). This trend bodes well for the variety of new <a href="http://searchengineland.com/lands/search-engines-people-search.php">people search engines</a> that have sprung up recently. Only 42% say that they get the results they are looking for at least most of the time, which means that these people search engines may be able to fill a gap left by traditional search engines.</p>
<p><strong>Teen Vs. Adult Perspectives</strong>
Only 20% of online adults have social networking profiles, compared to 55% of online teens, but teens are more likely to place restrictions around who can see their profiles. Is this because teens have more to hide or because adults don&#8217;t yet realize they should be hiding more?</p>
<p>Interestingly, 76% of teens feel that it would be at least somewhat difficult for someone to figure out who they are from their social networking profile. 54% of online users 18-29 feel that it would be difficult to searchers to locate or contact them based on online information generally.</p>
<p>Another interesting tidbit is that 8% of internet users ages 50-64 have social networking profiles, compared to 15% of internet users ages 20-49 and 50% of those 18-29.</p>
<p><strong>Online Life and Professional Life Intersect</strong>
Only 28% of online working adults feel that it&#8217;s &#8220;very important&#8221; not to be monitored online at work, down from 65% in 1994. And 20% of working Americans now have employers with policies around how employees present themselves online (such as by blogging).</p>
<p>As we become more visible online and more jobs require an online presence, the lines between personal and professional life continue to blur. Will that make internet users more concerned about how they are represented online? This survey seems to indicate just the opposite. As we get more comfortable with interacting and contributing online, we grow less worried about privacy and visibility. At least until those pics you thought you burned long ago somehow make it to Flickr.</p>
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		<title>Spock: People Search With A Man + Machine Approach</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/spock-people-search-with-a-man-machine-approach-12218</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vanessa Fox</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[People Search]]></category>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fspock-people-search-with-a-man-machine-approach-12218"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fspock-people-search-with-a-man-machine-approach-12218" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Last week, I wrote about the <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070912-085314.php" id="v_j4" title="overall people search landscape">overall people search landscape</a>, which, while not new, has been recently expanding and making full use of all that is shiny Web 2.0. <a href="http://www.spock.com/" id="on.n" title="Spock">Spock</a> is the latest of these services to leverage social networks, intelligent web crawling, and community involvement. Spock launched in private beta in April, then in public beta in August.</p>
<p>With Spock, you can search on a person&#8217;s name or a keyword that may be associated with a person, and are returned a list of people with associated tags, photos, and web sites. From there, you can drill into more information about any of those aspects, add information of your own, or browse to people who are related in various ways.</p>
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Spock CEO Jaideep Singh says that their crawling and indexing infrastructure has the unique ability to identify people-specific data on web pages and extract only  this information. Their algorithms combine natural language processing with machine learning and they augment this with human involvement&mdash;both community input and editorial oversight.</p>
<p>Tagging provides a unique twist on the search for people. As Singh points out, your search can turn into a discovery. You may initially search for information on Kristen Dunst, but then might follow the tags to see others associated with <i>Bring It On</i> and notice that several of those listed are also tagged with <i>Buffy the Vampire Slayer</i>, including Christophe Beck, who choreographed the music for both the awesome cheerleading movie and the kick ass TV show about the blonde girl with the pointy stick. Click &#8220;related people&#8221; for a list from another perspective.</p>
<p>In the case of Kristen Dunst, this gives you mostly a list of ex-boyfriends rather than costars. You view people in a larger context and can gain more insight with this type of system. You can also search directly over tags. For instance, a search for &#8220;Buffy fan&#8221; returns, well among other people, me. Singh says that only half of people-related searches are for names and the rest are topical, so having a way to categorize people into a variety of topics can be very useful.</p>
<p><img src="http://searchengineland.com/images/070920-spock2.jpg" width="525" height="1150" /></p>
<p>Anyone can add a tag to anyone else. Spock is confident that the ability of the community to <a href="http://blog.spock.com/2007/09/19/spock-voting/" id="xd4v" title="vote on tags">vote on tags</a> will bring a Digg-like democracy to the results and will present an accurate picture of not only how people view themselves, but how the web views them as well. Singh notes, for instance, that while Google created an algorithm to <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070125-230048.php" id="b-n." title='keep George Bush from being returned as a top result for "miserable failure"'>keep George Bush from being returned as a top result for &#8220;miserable failure&#8221;</a>, that&#8217;s a relevant result for Spock because it reflects the views of the community. (It&#8217;s currently the second tag listed for Bush.)</p>
<p><img src="http://searchengineland.com/images/070920-spock.jpg" width="525" height="114" /></p>
<p>But tagging has not been without criticism. A Digg-like democracy can give power to the collective people or it can be a ripe environment for gaming, and in typical web fashion, that has already begun. Singh claims the malicious use of tagging has been extremely low and notes that anyone can request removal of a tag once they&#8217;ve claimed their profile. And then there&#8217;s <a href="http://blog.spock.com/2007/09/06/spock-power-released/" id="ula_" title="Spock Power">Spock Power</a>, which gives more or less weight to votes based on a person&#8217;s history (how often contributions have been voted up or down). They also point to their transparency. Since everyone can see how everyone else tags and votes, I know exactly who&#8217;s tagging me as a Buffy fan.</p>
<p>Spock is incorporating other community aspects as well. Once you&#8217;ve created an account and claimed your profile, you can add friends and mark people as favorites. It seems that Spock marks favorites for you as well based on matches it finds from your connections on social networks such as LinkedIn. You can also import your address books and start building up a full network of contacts. You can add information to each profile that only you can see, such as phone numbers and notes. With features like this, you can see a bit of Spock&#8217;s roots as the ultimate contact management system (after the founders become frustrated with the limitations of Outlook). Since Spock can be a combination of contact information you add about people and the information that Spock finds about them from the web, you can potentially do more useful searches over those contacts. Rather than just search by name, you can look for all your contacts who like to play golf or are experts in link building.</p>
<p>Creating an account and registering your profile not only enables you to take part in the community aspects of the site, but it allows you to engage in a bit of reputation management as well. Information that you add about yourself is weighted more heavily than information others add about you. Also, you can sign up for alerts about when others add information to your profile.</p>
<p>How relevant are the results? Spock is going after quality over comprehensiveness and are slowly expanding. They don&#8217;t include offline data, but are ambitiously aiming to crawl the entire web and extract all useful people-related information. They&#8217;re not there yet. Flickr photos are visibly missing, for instance, but they&#8217;re working on adding more data sources over time.</p>
<p>Singh acknowledges that extraction and aggregation are hard problems. They feel they have an advantage over Google regarding extraction because while Google is agnostic to the page type, Spock tries to identify pages and information specifically about people and then processes over that. Aggregation requires that you not only can classify the data as people-related, but can identify when data from disparate locations is about the same person. So far, Spock seems to be primarily concentrating on grouping profiles from social networks and adding links from blogs, news stories, and sites like Wikipedia.</p>
<p>They feel their &#8220;man plus machine&#8221; philosophy is a scalable and effective way to combine smart approaches to algorithmic classifications with crowdsourcing. While this multi-faced approach seems promising, they certainly have an uphill battle. Can they engage the community to add valuable information? Can they become comprehensive&mdash;both in the total number of people they profile and in the information about each person? Can they introduce a paradigm shift around where people search and how people manage their contacts that will trigger a move away from Google and Outlook for people-related data? And maybe most importantly, will all of these plays give them an edge over the other people search services in the space?</p>
<p>All of that remains to be seen, but certainly they&#8217;ll be expanding in these areas over time, so they&#8217;re well worth watching. Stay tuned in the coming weeks for the rundown on some of the other services and their approaches to winning the battle of the people search vertical.</p>
<p><i><a href="http://vanessafoxnude.com/">Vanessa Fox</a> is product team lead for <a href="http://www.zillow.com">Zillow.com</a>. She was product manager for <a href="http://searchengineland.com/lands/google-webmaster-central.php">Google Webmaster Central</a> before joining Zillow in mid-2007.</i></p>
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		<title>Surveying The People Search Landscape</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vanessa Fox</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fsurveying-the-people-search-landscape-12153"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Fsurveying-the-people-search-landscape-12153" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Can you imagine trying to sort through billions of web pages without a search engine? Inconceivable! They make it easy and fast to find information. Now how about finding one of the six billion people on the planet. Where’s the Google of people search? As it turns out, an entire industry of people search engines is ramping up. In this series, I’ll be looking at the people search engines: existing ones that are revitalizing, brand new ones that have emerged and yes, whether or not Facebook will be the one to consume them all.</p>
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People search certainly isn&#8217;t new. As Michael Tanne, CEO of <a href="http://wink.com/" id="kuko" title="Wink">Wink</a>, points out, in the days before mainstream transportation everyone knew everything about everyone else in a village. And if you didn&#8217;t know someone, all you had to do was ask around: low-tech but very effective people search. But the world got bigger and eventually came tools like white pages and public records. With the internet, this data was ported online and made more easily searchable. Internet communities that enabled people to create profiles populated with their interests added a whole new facet to people searching. The latest services take all of these elements and throw social networking, blogs, Wikipedia, Flickr, and the proverbial web 2.0 kitchen sink into the mix.</p>
<p>Talk to these companies, and you&#8217;ll hear terms like &#8220;semantic indexing&#8221;, &#8220;structured data&#8221;, and &#8220;social graph&#8221; tossed around. Nearly all of them attempt to provide some aggregation and organization to the plethora of social networks that exist every place you look and many employ social networking aspects of their own &#8212; from community tagging and voting to social connections and content generation. Looking at them, you might wonder if they bring order to the chaos or contribute to it. But they&#8217;ll tell you there&#8217;s a method to the madness, and their hope is to help you sort through the web and find everything you might want to know about any person out there.</p>
<p>You can also go straight to the social networking sites to search for people (even Twitter says it now does people search), but since those sites aren&#8217;t built to be search engines, it may be more difficult to find who you&#8217;re looking for, and of course, they will only return results for that single site. Facebook in particular has touted itself as a <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070706-171507.php" id="zzx7" title="people search engine">people search engine</a>, but calling yourself such doesn&#8217;t make it so. Unlike many other social networking profiles, very little Facebook information is available to those not in the person&#8217;s network. At best, you can use a Facebook result to find friends you want to add to your network. It&#8217;s not ideal for mining data.</p>
<p>All this talk of Facebook opening up to search being a people search killer is so far <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070905-095657.php" id="co2n" title="just a lot of talk">just a lot of talk</a>. In fact, their recent push to open up their data to search engines may benefit people search engines, who may now more easily add Facebook profiles to their data aggregation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sawickipedia.com/blog/">Todd Sawicki</a>, who spent some time as VP of Marketing for <a href="http://wink.com/" id="nxul" title="Spock">Spock</a> and is currently an advisor for Facebar, sees the people search landscape at a crossroads. &#8220;When people search companies started, the assumption was that they would help aggregate and distill the multiple identities people were creating online.&nbsp; The goal was to create the complete view of you&mdash;likes, dislikes, background, friends, etc and since that information was spread around the net&mdash;aggregating that disparate information potentially provides a ton of value.</p>
<p>What none of the people search engines expected was Facebook.&nbsp; In a social network like Facebook, users willingly handing over all the information that people search engines are trying to cull and aggregate.&nbsp; Thus in a world where everyone is on Facebook, Facebook becomes the only place people need to go search for people.&nbsp; Now, if everyone doesn&#8217;t flock to Facebook and other dominant profile-based networks emerge, then people search engines provide the important layer on top of those networks helping to connect the dots across them.”</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s true that Facebook apps enable users to aggregate much of their data from across the web (including blog posts, Twitters, and Flickr photos), only friends can view this data, which doesn&#8217;t make the results ideal for non-friendship searching. Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg said as much in a recent <a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/startups/news/2007/09/ff_facebook?currentPage=all" id="b6b-" title="Wired article">Wired article</a>: People already have their friends, acquaintances, and business connections.&#8221; &#8220;So rather than building new connections, what we are doing is just mapping them out.&#8221; This is far different from what some of the people search engines are attempting to do. Not all people searches are about connecting with friends.</p>
<p>What about privacy? Do these sites encroach on privacy by making information about people easier to find? For the most part, people search services are just providing aggregation for what you and others have put online. Google and other search engines have been doing this for years. If you&#8217;re concerned about privacy, you should check out the policies of any social networks you use to see what information is available to those you haven&#8217;t explicitly opted-in to your friends network. <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/" id="ehr6" title="LinkedIn,">LinkedIn,</a> for instance, makes everything public unless you choose otherwise.</p>
<p>In some cases, these services also enable the community to add information about you. Spock, for instance, allows the community to add tags that describe you to your profile. But someone could almost as easily create a web page about you that others could find through Google, so even that&#8217;s not new. All have policies around removing information if you request it. <a href="http://www.zoominfo.com" id="tbjf" title="ZoomInfo">ZoomInfo</a> notes that people often use their service to find out where on the web they&#8217;re being discussed and use it as a list of sites to contact. They then request removal from ZoomInfo last.</p>
<p>So, what of people search, old and new, should you try out? I&#8217;ll be going through them all in this series, but in general, the service that might benefit you most depends on the type of searching that you&#8217;re doing.</p>
<p><b>Connecting with friends.</b> If you&#8217;re looking for friends (old or new) or for background on that person you just met at the bar, you can get dirt&mdash;er, information&mdash;using any of the people search engines out there. Anyone without a strong web presence may be difficult to find, particularly since consolidation can be problematic (Spock and Wink seem to be doing the most in this area). You may need to do double check your findings with a major search engine or search social networks directly.&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>Genealogy.</b> The newer people search services may not be all that helpful, since they rely primarily on web data and generally don&#8217;t include offline information. For historical information, you&#8217;re better off with some of the more traditional people search services or a genealogy service. However, these newer services might give you lots of eye-opening data about your current relatives.</p>
<p><b>Research.</b> Each people search engine has a particular niche within the vertical and not all types of research are created equal. Want to find all the RSS feeds for someone? Wink may be your best bet. Want a golf partner in Seattle who&#8217;s also a venture capitalist interested in investing in a new widget company like yours? You might check out Spock. Looking for a VP of Marketing who&#8217;s worked in both the biotech and telecommunications industries in Miami? ZoomInfo may be the search engine for you.</p>
<p>Spock&#8217;s CEO Jaideep Singh points out his engine&#8217;s component of discovery. If you&#8217;re looking for information on Tony Hawk, you might use the categorical tagging system to get a list of other skateboarders, and from there find out about Shaun White and the entire 2006 U.S. Olympic snowboarding team.</p>
<p>One caveat: These services are at various stages of beta, comprehensiveness, and quality, so relying on just one at this point might lead to less-than-ideal results.</p>
<p><b>Reputation Management.</b> If you care about managing your online reputation, you should check out how all of these sites represent you. Most of the newest ones rely entirely on crawling the web and anything they find is fair game. These sites can <a href="http://www.vanessafoxnude.com/2007/08/31/reputation-management-you-may-be-missing/" id="tj75" title="sometimes rank fairly well">sometimes rank fairly well</a> in the mainstream search engines, not to mention that they are used independently for searches. You should definitely claim and fill out your profiles.</p>
<p><b>Search engine optimization.</b> Since profiles from these services can rank fairly well, you may as well beef up your profiles and add links to your blogs and any other sites you own that you want to drive traffic to. And since many of these services allow for keyword searches, potential customers just may find your business from your profile. It&#8217;s hard to tell how much traffic these sites will be able to generate, since the adoption is still in early stages, but making sure your information is up-to-date and accurate surely can&#8217;t hurt.</p>
<p><b>Job and industry search.</b> If you&#8217;re looking for a job, to fill positions, or for information on particular industries or companies, searches using these services might produce data that would be difficult to find in the noisier search results you might get from a major search engine, which returns information for various contexts.</p>
<p>LinkedIn is likely the most well-known site of this type, but some of the other services augment a LinkedIn search in that they provide not only user-provided data, but also data found from crawling the web. You may still use LinkedIn (or these days, possibly Facebook) to make the connection, but you might do the initial research elsewhere. As Wink&#8217;s CEO explains, you can get a richer context for the person before you make the connection.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next? Look for these services to become more comprehensive and improve in both aggregation and relevancy, at least in part by leveraging community involvement. New services are likely to pop up that have foundational elements of the semantic web or natural language processing, and that attempt to solve the problems of disconnected social networks. I&#8217;ll explore how the old and new school people search engines are doing in these areas in upcoming articles in this series.</p>
<p><i><a href="http://vanessafoxnude.com/">Vanessa Fox</a> is product team lead for <a href="http://www.zillow.com">Zillow.com</a>. She was product manager for Google Webmaster Central before joining Zillow in mid-2007.</i></p>
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		<title>4 Questions &amp; Answers You Should Know About Facebook&#8217;s Public Search Listings</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2F4-questions-answers-you-should-know-about-facebooks-public-search-listings-12139"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2F4-questions-answers-you-should-know-about-facebooks-public-search-listings-12139" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Last week, Facebook formally announced that it was making millions of
personal profiles accessible to the public via major search engines. As far as I
can tell, Facebook members who never intended or expected to be listed this way
were suddenly opted-in to Facebook&#8217;s new plan. I say &quot;as far as I can tell&quot;
because despite several attempts over the past week, Facebook has failed to
provide me with any official answers. Below, some of the key questions I put to
the service about the profile move and member privacy issues, along with answers
as best I can determine on my own. </p>
<p>To reduce the hype factor, practically no
private data is being released. Instead, it&#8217;s the shift to an opt-out model that
I find the real story here. And for more background on the new profile listings,
be sure to read my <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070905-095657.php">
Facebook Opens Profiles To Tap Into Google Traffic</a> article from last week.</p>
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<p><b>1) Are The &quot;Public Search Listings&quot; New, As Facebook Claims?</b></p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>To explain more, last week on Sept. 5, Facebook blogged about the new public
search listings:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Starting today, we are making limited public search listings available to
people who are not logged in to Facebook. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>That makes the listings seem like something brand new. But they aren&#8217;t. My
aforementioned <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070905-095657.php">Facebook
Opens Profiles To Tap Into Google Traffic</a> article documented how Tom
Critchlow found he had a public search listing back in July &#8212; and one that was
showing up in Google. Rae &quot;Sugarrae&quot; Hoffman is an
<a href="http://www.sugarrae.com/the-unofficial-and-smartass-guide-to-using-facebook/">
experienced Facebook user</a> who also
<a href="http://sphinn.com/story/4660#c6793">found</a> that her profile was
available and in search engines ages ago.</p>
<p>Why care if the listings aren&#8217;t new but just being spun that way? Because
many people were not aware that these profiles were already being offered and,
importantly, might not have wanted them to be found by search engines. That
leads to the next question.</p>
<p><b>2) Was The Default Privacy Setting Changed To Expose These Listings?</b></p>
<p>Maybe.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say definitely, because only Facebook knows how things were (or
someone who documented how things were before the announcement was made).
However, there are enough clues (including Facebook&#8217;s silence on this issue) to
suggest that the default settings were either shifted to expose public listings
for everyone or the feature, whenever it was enabled, exposed the listings from
the outset.</p>
<p>To explain more, via the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/privacy.php">
Privacy Overview</a> page, you can reach the
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/privacy.php?view=search">Privacy Settings For
Search</a> page. That has a section which looks like this:</p>
<p>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1330359600/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1015/1330359600_1b6f9e2e1d_o.jpg" alt="Facebook Public Search Listings Privacy Settings" border="0" width="606" height="207"></a></p>
<p>See how you can choose to show anyone, including search engines, your public
search listing? This is the control panel that Facebook has suggested was a new
addition. In reality, the control panel existed several weeks before last week&#8217;s
announcement.</p>
<p>The screenshot above shows the current default settings. IE, if you sign-up
for Facebook right now, the privacy settings are set to expose your public
search listing to anyone, including search engines.</p>
<p>How things were matters. If things were set not to expose listings, then
Facebook has suddenly opted-in millions of people. If settings always exposed
these listings, then Facebook is &quot;coming clean&quot; late in the game. More on both,
below.</p>
<p><b>3) If Privacy Settings Disabled Public Search Listings, Were These Flipped
Back To Expose?</b></p>
<p>Probably not.</p>
<p>Let me go back the three states that the public search listing control panel
could have had and the implication of each state.</p>
<p><b>Expose: </b>This is the current default, where public search listings are
created and shown to search engines. I suspect this has always been the default.
At some point well prior to last week&#8217;s announcement, Facebook created these
public search listing pages and added a control panel for users to handle them.
Both are known facts. I think the defaults in the control panel were always set
to expose these pages, effectively opting-in Facebook members to having their
names put into search engines. </p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case, it&#8217;s disturbing that weeks later, Facebook finally
decides it needs to tell members about this &quot;new&quot; feature. That announcement
should have been made when the feature was launched, it seems.</p>
<p><b>Don&#8217;t Expose:</b> It may have been that the settings for members were set
to NOT expose these listings, by default. If that was the case (again, we don&#8217;t
know, as Facebook isn&#8217;t saying), members are now being opted-in to having their
pages exposed. </p>
<p>From a statement Facebook gave the press last week: &quot;We are giving users
approximately one month to set their privacy options before we allow search
engines to index these public search listings.&quot; If the settings were already set
to don&#8217;t expose, then users shouldn&#8217;t need to set any privacy options unless
Facebook is now changing the previous defaults.</p>
<p><b>Customized:</b> We don&#8217;t know if the defaults were set to expose or not,
in the past. We do know, however, that some users will likely have found the
control panel and customized it one way or the other. What happens if the
defaults were set to expose and changed &#8212; by the user &#8212; to not expose these
pages? Does last week&#8217;s announcement mean that Facebook will reset the member
customization? </p>
<p>I suspect not, and last week&#8217;s Facebook blog post did say listings would be
exposed &quot;depending on users&#8217; individual privacy settings,&quot; which implies they
aren&#8217;t going to override any customization. But it&#8217;s not entirely clear.</p>
<p><b>4) How Will The Listings Get Into Search Engines?</b></p>
<p>Unknown.</p>
<p>To be clear, some of these listings are already in search engines despite
Facebook is making it seem like this hasn&#8217;t happened yet. The statement above
talked about a month time period before search engines were allowed to index the
listings. The blog post also suggested that search engines wouldn&#8217;t be allowed
to get these pages for a few weeks. However, some are already out there.</p>
<p>Again, my <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070905-095657.php">Facebook
Opens Profiles To Tap Into Google Traffic</a> has some screenshots that explain
this, or you can try some searches like
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=site:facebook.com+inurl:p&#038;btnG=Search">
this</a> and
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:www.facebook.com/p/&#038;hl=en&#038;filter=0">
this</a> and
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site:facebook.com+public+listing">this</a>
to see more than 25,000 pages in Google (perhaps 60,000
<a href="http://www.ask.com/web?qsrc=167&#038;o=0&#038;l=dir&#038;q=site:www.facebook.com+public+listing&#038;search=search">
at Ask</a>; 5,000 at
<a href="http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=SMCRT&#038;q=site:www.facebook.com public listing">
Microsoft Live</a> Search and 12,000
<a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=site:www.facebook.com public listing&#038;ei=UTF-8&#038;fr=FP-tab-web-t&#038;cop=mss&#038;tab=">
at Yahoo</a>).</p>
<p>Of course, Facebook <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook">has</a>
over 30 million of members, and virtually none of them have listings that have
been indexed by the search engines yet. That&#8217;s because just creating the public
listings doesn&#8217;t mean search engines will find them. Those listed already
probably manually exposed links to their listings (my past article gets into
this more). But in a few weeks, it seems like Facebook itself will put the links
out there.</p>
<p>Facebook has two choices here and will likely do both:</p>
<ul>
<li><b>Member Directory:</b> Chances are, Facebook will provide a way to
browse through and find all the members on the site (showing only the limited
public listings for members, to those not logged in). It will likely be
similar to how you can currently
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/networks/networks.php">browse networks</a>.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li><b>XML Sitemaps: </b>
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070411-080716.php">Sitemaps</a> are a way
to bulk feed search engines listings. Chances are, Facebook will also feed
URLs to the major search engines in addition to making pages crawlable.</li>
</ul>
<p><b>Bonus Round: Listed Even If You Say No</b></p>
<p>That&#8217;s it for the questions. I also thought it useful to look at keeping
these pages out of the search engines, if you don&#8217;t want them listed.
Unfortunately, just ticking the &quot;don&#8217;t show&quot; option at Facebook won&#8217;t be enough.</p>
<p>See, the problem is that if search engines see ANY link pointing at a page,
they may list the page even if it is blocked from being spidered. For example,
consider this:</p>
<p>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1329464925/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1030/1329464925_adad2f125f.jpg" alt="Danny Sullivan On Facebook Via Google" border="0" width="500" height="204"></a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s an example of how my PRIVATE listing at Facebook shows up on Google
already. This is a listing that Facebook is never going to expose to the search
engines. But because Google can see a link to it (probably via my
<a href="http://sphinn.com/user/view/profile/dannysullivan">Sphinn profile page</a>),
it will list the URL and guess about what words to call it in the title.</p>
<p>URLs like these are called &quot;thin&quot; or &quot;partially indexed &quot;by the search
engines, and these two articles from me explain more about how they work:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/070417-213813.php">Google Releases
Improved Content Removal Tools</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://searchengineland.com/070430-143605.php">Google Checkout&#8217;s
Title Goes Missing On Google</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I prefer calling these URL-only listings &#8212; and the public listings that
Facebook will provide may show up as at URL-only listings even if you think they
aren&#8217;t supposed to be in the search engines at all. That&#8217;s because if there&#8217;s
even one link pointing at these pages, that can be enough to cause a URL-only
listing to be formed. Since Facebook&#8217;s going to be supplying links, there&#8217;s a
good chance many URL-only listings will happen.</p>
<p>What would they show? For me, if I were to block my profile, probably
something like this:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><b><a href="http://www.facebook.com/p/Danny_Sullivan/684476602">danny
sullivan</a></b><br />
www.facebook.com/p/Danny_Sullivan/684476602</p>
</blockquote>
<p>As you can see, all you really get from that type of listing is the name of
someone who has a profile at Facebook. Anyone can make an account in anyone
else&#8217;s name, so it doesn&#8217;t even indicate that a particular person has this
profile. However, it might give some a clue you are on Facebook, especially if
you have a distinctive and unusual name. The main takeaway is really that just
because you untick the &quot;expose&quot; boxes in the privacy settings does NOT mean you
won&#8217;t be listed in search engines. It simply means less information will be
shown.</p>
<p><b>Getting Rid Of URL-Only Listings</b></p>
<p>Remember, the public search listings that Facebook is providing shows
practically nothing already. Here&#8217;s mine:</p>
<p>
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1330360058/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1135/1330360058_23c96048fc.jpg" alt="Danny Sullivan On Facebook" border="0" width="500" height="195"></a></p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got my name, picture and the fact that I&#8217;m on Facebook. </p>
<p>If I disable exposing this, then a URL-only listing &#8212; if it happens &#8212; gives
you the same without the picture. But as I said, maybe even that&#8217;s too much for
some people. How do you get rid of the URL-only listing?</p>
<p>First, you have to understand how Facebook itself tries to block them. If you
set the privacy option to not expose these, Facebook inserts this meta robots
tag on your page:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>&lt;meta name=&quot;robots&quot; content=&quot;noindex,nofollow,noarchive,nosnippet,noydir,noodp&quot;/&gt;</p>
</blockquote>
<p>If you want to understand all those commands more, see my
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070305-204850.php">Meta Robots Tag 101:
Blocking Spiders, Cached Pages &amp; More</a> article. The key one is &quot;noindex,&quot;
which says don&#8217;t spider this page.</p>
<p>For Google, noindex will also prevent a URL-only listing from happening. For
Yahoo, it will NOT, according to Yahoo. The only way to remove a URL-only
listing from Yahoo is through the
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070201-083722.php">Yahoo Site Explorer&#8217;s
Delete URL feature</a>, and that won&#8217;t work with Facebook. Delete URL only works
for web sites you can verify having control over. You cannot verify Facebook for
yourself!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how Microsoft or Ask will react &#8212; I&#8217;ll check and postscript.</p>
<p><b>Poking At Facebook&#8217;s SEO</b></p>
<p>As I looked into the blocking issue, I also noticed the other meta tags that
Facebook is using. On pages that are NOT blocked, it uses the same meta
description tag for each of them:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>&lt;meta name=&quot;description&quot; content=&quot;Facebook is a social utility that
connects people with friends and others who work, study and live around them.
People use Facebook to keep up with friends, upload an unlimited number of
photos, share links and videos, and learn more about the people they meet.&quot; /&gt;</p>
</blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of silly &#8212; a meta description tag should uniquely describe the
content of a particular page, and using the same description on millions of
pages could potentially make them seem duplicates of each other for either
indexing or display purposes. In reality, most of these pages will come up in
response to a search on someone&#8217;s name &#8212; and since the name isn&#8217;t in the meta
description tag, that tag probably won&#8217;t be used as the description shown. But
Facebook could make these descriptions appear and be far more relevant if it
reworked them to incorporate the person&#8217;s name and explained this was their
public listing on Facebook.</p>
<p><b>Conclusion</b></p>
<p>Still with me? Here&#8217;s the recap:</p>
<ul>
<li>Facebook has been offering public listings well before last week&#8217;s
announcement.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>These listings have been exposed to search engines before members got a
heads-up about it last week.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Millions of Facebook members have to opt-out of the exposure, if they
don&#8217;t want it (and may have assumed they were already &quot;private&quot;).<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Facebook will be feeding these URLs to the search engines.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Exposure of the URLs means that even if you opt-out, you might find you
get a URL-only listing showing up at Yahoo and maybe Microsoft Live.com and
Ask.com.</li>
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		<title>Facebook Opens Profiles To Tap Into Google Traffic, While Google Grabs Facebook&#8217;s News Feed Idea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Ffacebook-opens-profiles-to-tap-into-google-traffic-while-google-grabs-facebooks-news-feed-idea-12096"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsearchengineland.com%2Ffacebook-opens-profiles-to-tap-into-google-traffic-while-google-grabs-facebooks-news-feed-idea-12096" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Google is getting a bit more like Facebook by enabling a Facebook-style news
feed within its Orkut social networking site, while the king of the walled
gardens Facebook acknowledges in actions (rather than words) that it really
can&#8217;t go it alone without search engines like Google, as it prepares to let
crawlers into its public user profiles. Actually, Facebook is telling its users
that existing profiles already accessible to search engines will be exposed even
more. Below, more on the moves, with lots of screenshots and explanations.</p>
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<p><b>Facebook Says Public Listings To Be Made Crawlable</b></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=2963412130">Public Search
Listings on Facebook</a> from the Facebook Blog covers how as of today, some
limited user profile information &#8212; what Facebook calls a &quot;Public Search
Listing&quot; &#8212; is being made available to anyone who comes to Facebook, regardless
of whether they are logged in. This will include search engine spiders, as well.
That means these listings should start showing up in Google, Yahoo, Microsoft
Live and so on. From the post:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Starting today, we are making limited public search listings available to
people who are not logged in to Facebook. We&#8217;re expanding search so that
people can see which of their friends are on Facebook more easily. The public
search listing contains less information than someone could find right after
signing up anyway, so we&#8217;re not exposing any new information, and you have
complete control over your public search listing.</p>
<p>In a few weeks, we will allow these Public Search listings (depending on
users&#8217; individual privacy settings) to be found by search engines like Google,
MSN Live, Yahoo, etc. We think this will help more people connect and find
value from Facebook without exposing any actual profile information or data.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><b>Um &#8212; This Isn&#8217;t New!</b></p>
<p>I found the news confusing for many reasons. For one, I remember signing-up
for Facebook before this announcement and seeing an area within the privacy
settings allowing me to expose my profile to search engines or not, if I wanted.
So this is new, as Facebook claims today? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Indeed, Tom Critchlow at Distilled
<a href="http://www.distilled.co.uk/blog/reputation/facebook-whos-doing-your-seo/">
wrote</a> about these options being live back in July. By the end of the month,
by linking to his public listing using his name as the
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070315-221747.php">anchor text</a>, he
<a href="http://www.distilled.co.uk/blog/seo/the-power-of-trusted-domains-a-case-study/">
found</a> that listing at Facebook ranking well within Google. Then by early
this month, it was no longer ranking. He
<a href="http://www.distilled.co.uk/blog/reputation-monitor/facebook-has-a-google-penalty/">
pondered</a> whether Google was penalizing Facebook listings.</p>
<p>Well, the listing is still there in the index, as you can see
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;q=Tom+Critchlow+site:facebook.com">
here</a> when doing a very specific search:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1329466243/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1069/1329466243_677a10c7b1.jpg" width="500" height="167" alt="Tom Critchlow On Facebook Via Google" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s just no longer ranking tops for his name,
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Tom+Critchlow">tom critchlow</a>, as it
was.</p>
<p>Back to that Facebook post. Remember how they said &quot;in a few weeks&quot;
that these public
listings would be allowed into public search engines? The fact that Tom&#8217;s in
there now further underscores that this isn&#8217;t new. Moreover, look at what happens
when you go to Tom&#8217;s public
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/p/Tom_Critchlow/633955149">listing</a> via
Google:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1330360820/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1241/1330360820_e59b594e4a.jpg" width="500" height="208" alt="Tom Critchlow On Facebook" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>See how it says &quot;You are seeing this because you clicked on a public search
listing link from a search engine or other external site.&quot; There&#8217;s already the
expectation from Facebook that these listings will be in search engines or
already are in them, rather than this being something that will happen within a few weeks.</p>
<p>FYI, that screen above is what you see if you&#8217;re logged in. You get a
slightly different message if you&#8217;re not:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1329467067/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1093/1329467067_5b91d09893.jpg" width="500" height="175" alt="Tom Critchlow On Facebook" border="0" /></a></p>
<p><b>Facebook Probably Moving To Opt-Out On Profile Exposure</b></p>
<p>So what&#8217;s going on? I&#8217;ll follow up with Facebook, but I think the real
situation is this:</p>
<ul>
<li>The public listings and settings to expose them to search engines have
been in place for at least several weeks. They are not new out today.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>By default, I think these have been set to off, not to expose the
listings.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Today&#8217;s announcement is probably an  heads-up that the default is
being changed to on for all Facebook users without actually explicitly saying
that.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Most of these public listings are probably not in the search engines yet,
since most people probably haven&#8217;t found or linked to their public profiles.<br />
&nbsp;</li>
<li>Today&#8217;s announcement is also news that Facebook is going to do some SEO
work to ensure search engines find these profiles.</li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;m checking with Facebook further on these points and will update when I
hear back.</p>
<p><b>Where IS My Public Listing?</b></p>
<p>Let me use myself as an example to explain things more. If you asked me for
my profile on Facebook, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=684476602">here</a>. And that
profile is listed in Google, if you do a narrow search like
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?&#038;q=&quot;danny+sullivan&quot;+site:facebook.com">
this</a>:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1329464925/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1030/1329464925_adad2f125f.jpg" width="500" height="204" alt="Danny Sullivan On Facebook Via Google" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>See how there&#8217;s not the usual description? Nor is there a cached link? That&#8217;s
a sign that this is a &quot;partially indexed&quot; URL at Google, a page it only knows
about by seeing links to it, not by actually having crawled it (see
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070417-213813.php">Google Releases Improved
Content Removal Tools</a> and
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070430-143605.php">Google Checkout&#8217;s Title
Goes Missing On Google</a> for more about these types of URLs).</p>
<p>What&#8217;s happened is that Google has found a link to my Facebook profile from
somewhere (probably via my
<a href="http://sphinn.com/user/view/profile/dannysullivan">Sphinn profile page</a>),
tried to spider the Facebook page but wasn&#8217;t allowed in. So, it uses the anchor
text title from that page (which is &quot;Danny Sullivan&quot;) as the title of the page
(and puts it into lowercase because of a bug/feature that the company continues
to fail to fix).</p>
<p>But what about my so-called &quot;public search listing.&quot; Well, that&#8217;s hard to
locate. For example, when I went into Facebook today, I got a big notice at the
top telling me I had one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1330359296/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1254/1330359296_cf9c20c7de.jpg" width="500" height="254" alt="Danny Sullivan On Facebook" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>The problem is, I can&#8217;t &quot;check out&quot; my public listing as Facebook encourages
me beyond looking at it in that notice because they gave me no link to it.
Where&#8217;s it live?</p>
<p>If I go to my search privacy settings, there is a link that says &quot;view my
public search listing&quot; next to the controls:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1330359600/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1015/1330359600_1b6f9e2e1d_o.jpg" width="606" height="207" alt="Facebook Public Search Listings Privacy Settings" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>Clicking on that link doesn&#8217;t take me to the page. Instead, I get a pop-up
showing me what it looks like, again with NO link to the page itself:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1329465749/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1117/1329465749_1ed051be60.jpg" width="500" height="200" alt="Facebook Public Search Listings Privacy Settings" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>As you can see, I&#8217;ve probably had a public listing for weeks, just like Tom
and perhaps other Facebookers. But I&#8217;ve never linked to it as I didn&#8217;t know
where it was located. After even more hunting today, I still don&#8217;t see a link to
it. Maybe I&#8217;m completely dumb, but that darn link isn&#8217;t noticeable.</p>
<p>To find it, I went back to Tom&#8217;s public listing. The URL looks like this:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/p/Tom_Critchlow/633955149">
http://www.facebook.com/p/Tom_Critchlow/633955149</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>OK, the /p/ part probably means that these are public listings, and his name
is pretty obvious. As for the number, all Facebook private profiles have a
number. So, I should be able to hack together my own URL, as long as I know my
name (I do!) and my number (I do!):</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="http://facebook.com/p/Danny_Sullivan/684476602">
http://facebook.com/p/Danny_Sullivan/684476602</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>And there I am. <a href="http://www.facebook.com/p/Danny_Sullivan/684476602">
Danny Sullivan on Facebook</a>:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1330360058/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1135/1330360058_23c96048fc.jpg" width="500" height="195" alt="Danny Sullivan On Facebook" border="0" /></a></p>
<p><b>Pros &amp; Cons To Public Listing</b></p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;ve linked to my profile, it will get indexed by the search
engines. Perhaps it might even start to rank well. Personally, I don&#8217;t mind
this. Indeed, many people are discovering how social media sites can help them
better control reputation management as a means of dominating the top results
for their names (see <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070313-071926.php">3
Ways Social Media Marketing Helps SEO</a> for more about this).</p>
<p>If I did care, I could use that privacy setting to keep it out of the search
engines &#8212; though that still won&#8217;t prevent a &quot;partially indexed&quot; URL from
showing up. If search engines see even one link to these pages, you might end up
with a listing. Again,
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070417-213813.php">Google Releases Improved
Content Removal Tools</a> not only explains the concept more, but it also covers
the extra steps you need to take to get rid of these listings &#8212; though this
generally will only work if the third party hosting service has physically
removed the page or put up a robots.txt or meta robots block).</p>
<p><b>New Traffic For Facebook</b></p>
<p>Having my profile out there is good news for Facebook, because it will send
some traffic their way. Indeed, some people search
engines have long employed this tactic of tapping into name searches on other
search engines to boost their business model.</p>
<p>Of course, it doesn&#8217;t help Facebook much if only a few people figure out how
to hack up a URL linking to their public pages. That&#8217;s why my other points are
important &#8212; Facebook will probably move to a default of &quot;on&quot; for exposing these
pages (the more pages out there, the more traffic it can gather), plus it will
probably set up a means for the search engines to find them (such as submitting
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/lands/seo-submitting-sitemaps.php">sitemaps</a>
or making it possible for search engines to crawl further into the site from
place like the network <a href="http://www.facebook.com/networks/networks.php">
page</a> to personal profiles).</p>
<p>This is a basic feature of SEO &#8212; you make your content crawlable to the
search engines. But more important, Facebook has come under accusations of
trying to build a walled garden, where everything happens from within Facebook
rather than on the open web (<a href="http://daggle.com/070810-212637.html">Grokking
Facebook: AOL 2.0</a> has a bit more of my thoughts on this). Some have even
viewed Facebook as not needing Google or &quot;external&quot; services, since it has such
a compelling network and hive of activity internally.</p>
<p><b>Facebook: Loving SEO &amp; Google</b></p>
<p>Guess not. Facebook clearly needs and wants that external exposure, or it
wouldn&#8217;t be making this move. Indeed, it&#8217;s even more ironic that only two months
ago, Facebook talked about being the most used people search engine on the web.
My <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070706-171507.php">Facebook One Of The
Top Search Engines? I Dunno About That!</a> post looks at this more with some
skepticism. That now grows when by putting profiles out into Google and other
major search engines, Facebook acknowledges that it is far from the only place
people are looking for other people.</p>
<p>So Facebook needs Google, or at least its traffic. But what about all that
noise recently about Google needing Facebook. Skip past the chatter regarding the
<a href="http://searchengineland.com/070827-121805.php">social graph improving
search</a>. Last month, Google vice president of search products and user
experience Marissa Mayer talked with me  about being intrigued by Facebook and wanting to do some of the things that Facebook does, not to mention
saying it was her favorite non-Google service (see
<a href="http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/3695801">here</a> and
<a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1038_3-6204018.html">here</a> and
<a href="http://www.webpronews.com/blogtalk/2007/08/23/ses-marissa-mayer-of-google">
here</a>).</p>
<p>Of course, Google has its own long-standing social network,
<a href="http://www.orkut.com">Orkut</a>. Even I will joke along with others
about it seeming to be big in Brazil, Iran and nowhere else. But in another
interview recently (<a href="http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-09-03-n78.html">read
here</a>;
<a href="http://iinnovate.blogspot.com/2007/08/marissa-mayer-vp-of-search-products-and.html">
listen here</a>), Mayer fairly points out that it is the second largest social network
world wide.</p>
<p><b>Google: Nice Idea Facebook, Can We Have A News Feed For Orkut?</b></p>
<p>That leads us to Google borrowing from Facebook. One of Facebook&#8217;s most
compelling features is the news feed, a terrible name for those who think &quot;news
feed&quot; means an RSS feed you subscribe to. &quot;Friend Feed&quot; would be a better name,
since the news feed is a running update of what your friends are doing on
Facebook, like this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannysullivan/1329464677/" title="Photo Sharing">
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1342/1329464677_8e33d75d7f.jpg" width="452" height="409" alt="Facebook News Feed" border="0" /></a></p>
<p>Now Orkut is getting its own friend feed, as
<a href="http://en.blog.orkut.com/2007/09/whats-new-with-your-orkut-friends.html">
explained</a> on the Orkut blog:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Starting today you may see a &quot;Updates from your friends&quot; box on the
homepage where you&#8217;ll get real-time updates when your friend Divya has a new
address, when Priya has uploaded a new favorite YouTube video, or Amar has
posted his new photos. Any changes you make will show up on your friends&#8217;
homepages as well, so they can be the first to wish you best of luck at your
new job, or or send you a scrap about the photo from your latest vacation.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I checked my Orkut profile and don&#8217;t see it live there yet, so can&#8217;t show you
an example. Orkut says it will be coming out for various users over the next few
days.</p>
<p><b>Postscript: </b>Techmeme has more discussion
<a href="http://www.techmeme.com/070905/p19#a070905p19">here</a>, and Amit
Agarwal
<a href="http://labnol.blogspot.com/2007/09/facebook-people-search-engine-is-live.html">
points out</a> you can see that more than 25,000 public listings
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:www.facebook.com/p/&#038;hl=en&#038;filter=0">
are already</a> in Facebook.</p>
<p><b>Postscript 2: </b>John Battelle also seems to have
<a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/003928.php">gotten</a> a FAQ from the
PR department that says, &quot;In addition, we are informing all users that external
indexing will occur in approximately one month, so they have time to adjust
their privacy settings.&quot; Oops &#8212; plenty of users are already indexed, of course
&#8211; though the privacy settings they chose should have initially told them this
would happen. Those are the settings that are supposedly new out now but have
actually been in place for some time.</p>
<p><strong>Postscript 3:</strong> <a href="http://searchengineland.com/070911-103851.php">4 Questions &#038; Answers You Should Know About Facebook&#8217;s Public Search Listings</a> goes into more depth about how these listings will be distributed to search engines plus how most members were effectively opted-in to them well before the Facebook announcement</p>
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