Mahalo Launches With Human-Crafted Search Results


Mahalo, the expected people-powered search engine backed by Jason Calacanis, has now gone live in an early "Alpha" test release. In Mahalo, human editors have crafted the top search results for popular queries.

For example, search for [paris hotels], and human editors at Mahalo have assembled a page that lists actual hotels in Paris rather than hotel aggregation/booking sites that you see at Google.

I ran a few queries when talking with Jason about the service last week. Often, the results were impressive. In some other cases, the humans had gone into overkill, listing so many related categories of information that I felt like I was using Yahoo back in 1999.

History: Humans & Search

Human-crafted search results aren’t a new idea, of course. This is precisely how Ask Jeeves used to work. In fact, it was this human element that was crucial to the early success that Ask had back when it initially became popular as an up-and-coming search engine in 1998, alongside Google. Ask’s editors would — as Mahalo editors do now — look at the most popular searches and create search results that editors hoped would be answer the information need.

Ask’s problem was scaling. Having so many editors cost money. In contrast, Google’s link-based automated approach provided good relevancy for both popular and unusual (or long-tail) queries.

Over time, the machine has reigned supreme when it comes to the major search engines. Yahoo’s human-powered directory has been buried in various ways over the years, while Microsoft once heavy-reliance on human editing of top results was long-abandoned in the technological chase after Google.

Scaling Humans

Cost-wise, Calacanis is optimistic he has things covered.

"We have 40 people working on it in Santa Monica and will have 100 by the end of the year. We think we can control the costs," he said. "We can actually make enough money to keep this going."

In particular, Jason talked about his experience in keeping 300 bloggers going though the Weblogs network he used to run as useful.

"It’s not hard for me to keep them [so many editors] focused on a goal." As for funding, if the Google AdSense units currently on the site don’t cover costs, Calacanis says investors ranging from News Corp. to AOL’s Ted Leonsis have given him enough money to run the company for at least five years.

In terms of searches targeted, Jason said the focus remains firmly on the most popular queries that are performed by many people, rather than trying to have a human-crafted answer for everything.

"The goal of the site is not to be a comprehensive search engine. We’re very comprehensive for the most popular search terms. After that, we give the others over to Google or Yahoo," Calacanis said.

Alternative, But Not Replacement, To Google

Give over to Google or Yahoo? Two explanations here. First, Jason doesn’t expect that Mahalo will be used instead of a major search engine like Google or Yahoo. Instead, he hopes it will become a tool people selectively tap into when they want answers for a common, popular subject. He expects those looking to do hard-core research or a hunt after unusual information to turn to a traditional search engine.

"I don’t think it’s possible for people to abandon them," he said, giving the example of someone looking for information about a specific cell phone battery as being too specific for Mahalo to cover.

"It’s not the goal to wipe out Google or be the first choice. Google is the new ocean. You are much better to work with them. We don’t see them as competitive. We’ve got 4,000 search terms, we’re not going to replace them, we know that. But if you compare any of these terms, it’s better to start with us," he said, his "Google as ocean" comment echoing Topix’s Rich Skrenta’s "Google is the environment" observation from earlier this year.

Of course, some people will search for things at Mahalo without knowing it has no answers of its own. In that case, Mahalo will provide Google-powered results, so as not to disappoint. Google’s not a formal partner in doing this, by the way. Instead, Mahalo is simply using the AdSense For Search service that any publisher can tap into. And no — Mahalo doesn’t plan its own ad system, Calacanis said.

Gaining Acceptance

While the goal might not be to replace Google, Calacanis clearly wants his service to get used. How does he plan to grow share? There’s no spending millions on ads similar to what Microsoft and Ask.com have done. Instead, he’s looking to follow the Google model, word-of-mouth.

Plenty of search start-ups have assumed word-of-mouth about their hot new idea or twist on search would be enough to make their companies thrive then been disappointed as they disappeared into obscurity. Why does Calacanis think Mahalo will be different from these others?

"I don’t think they delivered a good product. Compare any of our [human-crafted] search results to Google search results head-to-head. We will be five-to-ten times better," he explained.

What if Maholo somehow beat all the odds and seriously threatened Google? Doesn’t that potentially weaken Mahalo, which is depending on Google to do the hard work of crawling the web and providing relevant results for all those tail terms that Mahalo won’t target?

Calacanis sees this as unlikely — but that’s also where Search Wikia – project backed by Wikipedia’s Jimmy Wales — might come in. Wales is focused more on building an open-source crawling of the web that anyone could use (see Q&A With Jimmy Wales On Search Wikia for more on this). For that reason, Calacanis doesn’t necessarily see himself as "beating" Wales to the punch with a new human-powered service and in fact sees the two projects as perhaps complimentary.

"If his open source results are good and unique and better than Google’s, we’ll use them. We’re defaulting to Google for long tail [query results] because they are the best search out there. I hope that he comes up with something great, because if it is open source, we’d have a great solution," Calacanis said.

Crafting Queries; Avoiding The Destination Trap

Mahalo isn’t just relying on human editors. There’s the ability for users of the site to submit content that should be included on a page, if the editors have overlooked it. But unlike human-powered Wikipedia, these suggestions don’t go live automatically. An editor has to agree to a change and implement it.

"We basically spend four to eight hours on a search term, and that gets us to what I’d consider 60 to 70 percent compete [information for that term]. We’ll rely on the audience to do the rest, though we won’t let them edit the page," Calacanis said.

Pages will link not just to web sites but also to video content, news stories (right now from Google News) and other information. It’s impressive, especially some of the categorical groupings the humans do, though Hakia does some pretty similar and impressive work using technology rather than humans (try a search for iphone, for example — and I hope to finally make time to do my planned write-up on Hakia later in June).

Some Mahalo pages, such as for iPhone, will have "Fast Facts" sections to provide direct answers — though Calacanis said this type of information will purposely be kept to a minimum, so as to avoid the problem that About.com fell into.

In particular, About.com originally launched as the Mining Co. back in 1997, billed as a human-powered alternative to finding stuff on the web — human guides would "mine" the best information out there, hence the site’s original name.

I never viewed the Mining Co. as a search engine but rather a destination site. Calacanis had the same view, when I asked why he thought Mahalo would be a successful search engine when the Mining Co. — About.com — failed to find success in that particular role.

"They strayed from being a guide to the web to being a landing page," Calacanis explained. "We are not going to do that….one of the rules we have is ‘Don’t compete with the destination’," he said. Internally, Mahalo heavily debated having Fast Facts but decided including three or four would be helpful.

Overall, Mahalo aims to cover 25,000 top search terms. About 4,000 have been created already, and the goal is to do 500 per week scaling up to 1,000 per week. This includes revisiting and updating existing terms

Humans Versus Machines

That revisiting is important. I recently talked with Tim Mayer, vice president of product management at Yahoo, about the idea of Yahoo doing more hand-crafting of results. It seems like a no-brainer idea, but Mayer reminded that what’s relevant for a query can often change over time. Google’s Udi Manber, vice president of engineering, made similar remarks when I spoke with him about human-crafted results when I was visiting at Google yesterday.

One example he pointed out was how Google’s human quality reviewers — people that Google pays to provide a human double-check on the quality of its results, so they can then better tune the search algorithm — started to downgrade results for [cars] when information about the movie Cars started turning up. The algorithm had picked up that the movie was important to that term before some of the human reviewers were aware of it.

Overall, the best solution probably isn’t all human or all machine but some combination of the two.

"Humans Are Better" was literally the motto of the Open Directory Project when it launched back in 1998, but that human model hasn’t scaled well. That, along with other human-powered failures, are enough to make Mahalo seem interesting but ultimately not likely to succeed.

Then again, Wikipedia stands so far at a shining example of how humans can indeed come together and produce a quality resource. It’s not perfect, obviously, but it has lots of great information. As I said about Wales’ project at the end of December, so I think about Mahalo — it’s good to see humans getting more of a role in search, and perhaps both projects will ultimately find a way to better blend the best of both words, human and machine.



Danny Sullivan is editor-in-chief of Search Engine Land. He’s a widely cited authority on search engines and search marketing issues who has covered the space since 1996. Danny also oversees Search Engine Land’s SMX: Search Marketing Expo conference series, maintains a personal blog called Daggle and microblogs on Twitter as @dannysullivan.

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11 COMMENTS ON Mahalo Launches With Human-Crafted Search Results

gary price,

Danny:
Just like to point out as I have in the past several excellent “non-commercial” directories coming from academia and the library world. Most offer a “collection” policy (what they will and will not add), excellent organization, and focuses on quality of the underlying resource vs. total size.

Examples (general) include:
+ Librarians’ Internet Index
http://www.lii.org
Powered with tech from Siderean

+ Intute (from the UK)
http://www.intute.ac.uk
Note: Intute even offers complete web research tutorials for many disciplines.
http://vts.

+ IPL
http://www.ipl.org

+ Infomine
http://infomine.ucr.edu

Of course, directories that focus on specific topics exist.

Here are three examples:
International Business
http://globaledge.msu.edu

Resources for Educators
http://thegateway.org
Like LII, powered with tech from Siderean.

ELDIS
“development gateway”
http://www.eldis.org



gary price,

Forgot one additional excellent example of a focused tool. This time for engineering, mathematics, and computing.

TechExtra
From the site:

TechXtra is a free service which can help you find articles, books, the best websites, the latest industry news, job announcements, technical reports, technical data, full text eprints, the latest research, thesis & dissertations, teaching and learning resources and more, in engineering, mathematics and computing.



Ivan Pope,

Well, warrabout dmoz – The Open Directory Project is the largest, most comprehensive human-edited directory of the Web. It is constructed and maintained by a vast, global community of volunteer editors
http://dmoz.org/about.html



AdamJusko,

Mahalo sounds almost exactly like Bessed.

I’d say your analysis of the pros and cons of the human-powered search engine are apt.



Seth Finkelstein,

This is an interesting exercise in “cream-skimming”. Since it’s outsourcing to Google for 99.9% of the terms, it’s not really a general search engine – more like a vertical search, with “popular terms” as the area of expertise.

By the way:
“Plenty of search start-ups have assumed word-of-mouth … Why does Calacanis think Mahalo will be different …”
You missed the obvious answer: Because he’s an A-lister and is skilled in attention-baiting. It’s not an accident that Mahalo has A-list bloggers in its coverage area.



JEHochman,

If it develops a substantial following, Calacanis can sell Mahalo to Google (or Microsoft), and the search engine can fuse the handcrafted results with their algorithmic results.



BlendahTom,

@JEHochman … I think Google already has that covered w/ their CSE/CoOp program…Mahalo is a combo of ChaCha and Wikipedia… I think that Jason Plans to build robust results pages for the Big 3 search engines when a query is made..The problem that I see is that where this kind of service would excel is in the vertical markets not so much on the top 10,000..

my .02



JEHochman,

I am underwhelmed with Google Coop. Mahalo seems much more useful.



Lucky Lester,

Did a quick test to see what turned up for the term Poker, arguably the most popular search term these days and what did I get… We haven’t created a hand written page for that one yet. Generic reason offered as to why there were no results yet; they want to hand write results pages for the top 10,000 search terms.

Regardless of what anybody thinks about porn or gambling, these have always been among the most popular search terms and probably always will be. I don’t know, perhaps the good people at Mahola are starting at 10,000 and working their way backwards?



Kaila Colbin,

Hi Danny,

I think Mahalo has an uphill battle ahead of them, although I do commend their efforts to bring human analysis to a technology that, like all technology, exists to serve its users.

The truth is I don’t think there is any viable way for paid, controlled, human-powered processing to keep up with the exponential growth of content. Obviously, they can’t just create pages for 10,000 terms and be done—they’d need constant revisiting and updating.

I’d be really interested to hear more about Mahalo’s long-term business model, to understand how Calacanis is handling scalability and maintenance.

All the best,
Kaila Colbin



rednikki,

I just wanted to let Lucky Lester know that he’s absolutely right – we did need a Poker search result. You’ll find it here:
http://www.mahalo.com/Poker
Thanks for pointing it out!
If you want to find out what we’re working on right now, you can go to the Daily SeRP List and see our results being built live.
http://www.mahalo.com/The_daily_serp_list
Mahalo for your feedback!




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