Comments on: Matt Cutts On Google Rumor Debunking Rampage

By: Michael Visser

Michael Visser — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:40:23 +0000

And here I was thinking Matt might be debunking SEO rumours… should have known…

By: John A. Robb

John A. Robb — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:43:40 +0000

Could out of region clicks have anything to do with bogus PTR records? I get Quebec entries all the time for people in Ontario because their ISP has poorly configured PTR info (or backhauls their traffic to an out of region IP).

By: Mikkel deMib Svendsen

Mikkel deMib Svendsen — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:32:12 +0000

Totaly understand that, Danny. Very resonable :)

By: Danny Sullivan

Danny Sullivan — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:35:08 +0000

I’m planning to revisit the story. I haven’t posted on it not to avoid it but simply because it was complicated, and I didn’t want to dive in until I had time to better understand all that’s going on.

By: Mikkel deMib Svendsen

Mikkel deMib Svendsen — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:41:29 +0000

Matt, that is just your totally undocumented claim. AIT claims different and provide documentation to back it up.

Also, this is not the first time out-of-region clicks has been documented. It happens, and it apparently happens a lot. I’ve seen it personally on compaigns that was perfectly set up. The fact is, Google is NOT hanling this the way they should and is has to change – like it or not.

Also, out of reion clicks is not the only click fraud in this case and you know that.

And finally, as has been pointed oput by many, Googles way of responding to clients on this issue is childish, to say the least. Did you ever had to call customer support, Matt? I guess not :)

By: rustybrick

rustybrick — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:37:40 +0000

Ok, I missed the point. Happens to me all the time.

By: Matt Cutts

Matt Cutts — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:37:19 +0000

Hey, the site got all pretty! I like what you’ve done with the place. Nice layout. :)

Mikkel, as you know I addressed the invalid clicks issue in “Watching a story, part II”. The company in question didn’t set up their ad campaigns to exclude clicks from US/Canada. That puts the invalid clicks allegations in a different light as well.

By: Mikkel deMib Svendsen

Mikkel deMib Svendsen — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:29:58 +0000

> a story about Google funding terrorism (a topic I avoided on purpose),

Berry, I am sorry to say but you are totally missing the point if you think terrorism was the center of that story. It was, and is, about serious click fraud and lack of trancparancy. Yes, terrorism was mentioned ONCE durrin the press conference because it was brought up by AIT that Jim Hedger interviewed but the main focus is click fraud. Is that topic to sensitive for you too? :) … chicken hehe

By: rustybrick

rustybrick — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:56:09 +0000

That topic, I think was blown out for no reason.

It can be used in so many cases.

Maybe I did not read it carefully enough, but I am not blind, I saw the 100s of blogs post on it.

Honestly, I thought it was not such a big deal. Of course the title made it look huge, but when it came down to the technical aspects of how (not the why), it is not a huge deal, IMO.

By: dazzlindonna

dazzlindonna — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:14:50 +0000

…a topic I avoided on purpose…

Chicken! bawk, bawk! ;)