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		<title>By: alan_bleiweiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan_bleiweiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Danny
Nice to meet ya!  Heard a lot about ya.  Figured I&#039;d check out your blog. Glad I did!

Now, about this whole meta keywords issue.  If Yahoo uses it, and there&#039;s a possibility that Google does in some ways, or even if only Yahoo does, and maybe some lesser search engines, then for the lousy few moments it takes to fill the field, why wouldn&#039;t I take that time?

Sure, it&#039;s not on my top five SEO list. But neither are twenty or thirty other things I do.

But if using it helps even a bit, then personally, I feel it&#039;s worth it.

Just as valuable to me is the fact that it&#039;s a nifty little consistently located place for me to keep the words and phrases that I want to have there as a reminder for my clients and my team to refer to when they&#039;re working on the content of a page.  Can&#039;t remember which words and phrases you need to build your natural language site content around?  Simple - refer to the meta keywords field!

Anyway, I love the fact that these issues are so debatable - the more we discuss and debate them within the industry, the more we hone our skills.  And for me, I&#039;m always needing to do that.  How else am I ever going to eventually become the SEO demi-god I&#039;ve made myself out to be in my own mind?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Danny<br />
Nice to meet ya!  Heard a lot about ya.  Figured I&#8217;d check out your blog. Glad I did!</p>
<p>Now, about this whole meta keywords issue.  If Yahoo uses it, and there&#8217;s a possibility that Google does in some ways, or even if only Yahoo does, and maybe some lesser search engines, then for the lousy few moments it takes to fill the field, why wouldn&#8217;t I take that time?</p>
<p>Sure, it&#8217;s not on my top five SEO list. But neither are twenty or thirty other things I do.</p>
<p>But if using it helps even a bit, then personally, I feel it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
<p>Just as valuable to me is the fact that it&#8217;s a nifty little consistently located place for me to keep the words and phrases that I want to have there as a reminder for my clients and my team to refer to when they&#8217;re working on the content of a page.  Can&#8217;t remember which words and phrases you need to build your natural language site content around?  Simple &#8211; refer to the meta keywords field!</p>
<p>Anyway, I love the fact that these issues are so debatable &#8211; the more we discuss and debate them within the industry, the more we hone our skills.  And for me, I&#8217;m always needing to do that.  How else am I ever going to eventually become the SEO demi-god I&#8217;ve made myself out to be in my own mind?</p>
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		<title>By: geeurbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>geeurbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still love and use keywords.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still love and use keywords.</p>
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		<title>By: RayPays</title>
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		<dc:creator>RayPays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny,
We continue to use the keyword tag just to keep us on topic when writing for the page. And yes, we&#039;ve been arguing about commas versus no commas for a decade. I am in the no comma camp because if the robots read and/or ever use the tag we believe it allows them to form whatever &quot;terms&quot; they want to out of the word jumble - over, under, sideways, down !
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny,<br />
We continue to use the keyword tag just to keep us on topic when writing for the page. And yes, we&#8217;ve been arguing about commas versus no commas for a decade. I am in the no comma camp because if the robots read and/or ever use the tag we believe it allows them to form whatever &#8220;terms&#8221; they want to out of the word jumble &#8211; over, under, sideways, down !</p>
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		<title>By: Myron Rosmarin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myron Rosmarin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Danny, thanks so much for writing it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Danny, thanks so much for writing it.</p>
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		<title>By: bood guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bood guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very simple algorithm that would give back the value of the keyword meta tag:

1. Check this ratio: (number of meta keywords) / (number of words in the visible copy)

2. If the ratio is below a certain threshold, give the keywords a certain weight (because a small ratio proves that this meta tag is probably used sensibly).

3. If it is above that threshold, but still smaller than a second, higher threshold, give less weight to the keywords.

4. It this ratio is above the second threshold (so the meta tag is overstuffed with keywords relative to the amount of copy), give the keywords no weight.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very simple algorithm that would give back the value of the keyword meta tag:</p>
<p>1. Check this ratio: (number of meta keywords) / (number of words in the visible copy)</p>
<p>2. If the ratio is below a certain threshold, give the keywords a certain weight (because a small ratio proves that this meta tag is probably used sensibly).</p>
<p>3. If it is above that threshold, but still smaller than a second, higher threshold, give less weight to the keywords.</p>
<p>4. It this ratio is above the second threshold (so the meta tag is overstuffed with keywords relative to the amount of copy), give the keywords no weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Benj Arriola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benj Arriola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work with a company that is soooo anal on these tags. Before I came in I never put any serious attention on the Meta Keywords tag after just playing around in SEO contest and looking at what other people are doing already gave me the idea the tags is nearly useless. Now here I go corporate SEO work, on my first few days, I kept redoing meta keywords tag. But still I don&#039;t mind doing them to be inline with the company&#039;s policies and making sure everything is done the same way as everyone else but on my own SEO work, I just place almost anything in the Meta Keywords tag. Just related words that come into my head without using any keyword research tools.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work with a company that is soooo anal on these tags. Before I came in I never put any serious attention on the Meta Keywords tag after just playing around in SEO contest and looking at what other people are doing already gave me the idea the tags is nearly useless. Now here I go corporate SEO work, on my first few days, I kept redoing meta keywords tag. But still I don&#8217;t mind doing them to be inline with the company&#8217;s policies and making sure everything is done the same way as everyone else but on my own SEO work, I just place almost anything in the Meta Keywords tag. Just related words that come into my head without using any keyword research tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done.  Thank you.

One other use of keyword values might be to assist in defaulting social bookmark “tags” for users who bookmark a page.  The keywords can be passed on to many social media sites with the help of a bit of JavaScript.

It might be worth specifically noting that the TITLE tag, which appears along with the meta tags in the html HEAD document section, is simply the document title, not the &quot;title meta tag&quot; I often hear it called.

Unlike the meta tags, it is visible.  The graphical browsers include it at the top of the browser window.  They also use it as a page&#039;s bookmark title.  The terminal based browser Lynx displays the TITLE at the top of the page.

As for closing meta tags with /&gt;, this is indeed an xml requirement for sites which have specified xhtml as the html version in the DOCTYPE statement at the top of a page.  Other common tags which need this closure include IMG, BR and HR.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done.  Thank you.</p>
<p>One other use of keyword values might be to assist in defaulting social bookmark “tags” for users who bookmark a page.  The keywords can be passed on to many social media sites with the help of a bit of JavaScript.</p>
<p>It might be worth specifically noting that the TITLE tag, which appears along with the meta tags in the html HEAD document section, is simply the document title, not the &#8220;title meta tag&#8221; I often hear it called.</p>
<p>Unlike the meta tags, it is visible.  The graphical browsers include it at the top of the browser window.  They also use it as a page&#8217;s bookmark title.  The terminal based browser Lynx displays the TITLE at the top of the page.</p>
<p>As for closing meta tags with />, this is indeed an xml requirement for sites which have specified xhtml as the html version in the DOCTYPE statement at the top of a page.  Other common tags which need this closure include IMG, BR and HR.</p>
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		<title>By: oldschoolseo</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldschoolseo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny, there is another school of thought that dates way back to SES NYC 2000 and that was by using a comma and a space, a search bot would recognize that as a &quot;double parse&quot; where the comma serves as one and the space serves as the other.  This is my understanding of the history of the &quot;comma, no space&quot; format.

Cheers!

- Anthony
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny, there is another school of thought that dates way back to SES NYC 2000 and that was by using a comma and a space, a search bot would recognize that as a &#8220;double parse&#8221; where the comma serves as one and the space serves as the other.  This is my understanding of the history of the &#8220;comma, no space&#8221; format.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>- Anthony</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ken!

1) The test shows that Google and Yahoo will not recover a page if the word you searched for only appears within the meta keywords area. If they did, you&#039;d have seen my home page coming up. If the argument is they retrieve the page but then say oh, the word is only in the meta keywords tag so don&#039;t show it, same thing in the end. The page isn&#039;t turning up.

2) My recommendation is don&#039;t bother with the tag. But if you really want to, then misspellings to me are fine. That been a long-standing use of the meta keywords tag, so you&#039;re on solid ground in my book.

3) It&#039;s a simplistic test because that&#039;s all it needs to be. It was designed to see if a search engine would find a page if the word you looked for only appeared in the meta keywords tag. Two do; two don&#039;t. It&#039;s not a ranking test, so a simple yes/no answer is absolutely fine.

6) It costs time. Too many beginners spend way too much time on the tag rather than their content. That&#039;s a serious cost, hence my conclusion :)

As for taking note, if I were a search engine, I&#039;d ignore the tag because of the widespread misuse. I&#039;d rely more on other factors -- which is what they in fact do.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ken!</p>
<p>1) The test shows that Google and Yahoo will not recover a page if the word you searched for only appears within the meta keywords area. If they did, you&#8217;d have seen my home page coming up. If the argument is they retrieve the page but then say oh, the word is only in the meta keywords tag so don&#8217;t show it, same thing in the end. The page isn&#8217;t turning up.</p>
<p>2) My recommendation is don&#8217;t bother with the tag. But if you really want to, then misspellings to me are fine. That been a long-standing use of the meta keywords tag, so you&#8217;re on solid ground in my book.</p>
<p>3) It&#8217;s a simplistic test because that&#8217;s all it needs to be. It was designed to see if a search engine would find a page if the word you looked for only appeared in the meta keywords tag. Two do; two don&#8217;t. It&#8217;s not a ranking test, so a simple yes/no answer is absolutely fine.</p>
<p>6) It costs time. Too many beginners spend way too much time on the tag rather than their content. That&#8217;s a serious cost, hence my conclusion :)</p>
<p>As for taking note, if I were a search engine, I&#8217;d ignore the tag because of the widespread misuse. I&#8217;d rely more on other factors &#8212; which is what they in fact do.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny I believe Matt in one of his videos last year
&lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5179191836301432169&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5179191836301432169&lt;/a&gt;
(I can&#039;t recollect which video it was in though, Matt do you remember?) said that labs.google.com/accessible/ does support Meta Keywords.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny I believe Matt in one of his videos last year<br />
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5179191836301432169" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5179191836301432169</a><br />
(I can&#8217;t recollect which video it was in though, Matt do you remember?) said that labs.google.com/accessible/ does support Meta Keywords.</p>
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