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	<title>Comments on: Some SEOs Suggest To Verify But Not Submit A Google Sitemap</title>
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		<title>By: Goethe</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/some-seos-suggest-to-verify-but-not-submit-a-google-sitemap-10569/comment-page-1#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator>Goethe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 07:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also love Google Webmaster Central and it helped me sometime. But I don&#039;t have a sitemap and I won&#039;t have it. The site will be crawled by Goggle and thats good.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also love Google Webmaster Central and it helped me sometime. But I don&#8217;t have a sitemap and I won&#8217;t have it. The site will be crawled by Goggle and thats good.</p>
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		<title>By: Content Strategist</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/some-seos-suggest-to-verify-but-not-submit-a-google-sitemap-10569/comment-page-1#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Content Strategist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason someone could legitimately say it&#039;s &quot;black hat&quot; is the same reason &quot;IP-delivery&quot; is labeled &quot;black hat&quot; -- ie. you are serving up two different stories as a deliberate confidence trick in an attempt to intentionally mislead with the goal of financial or other personal gain (ie. increased monetization through better serps, for instance).

It&#039;s an exploit pure and simple, the same way your tax accountant (as I mentioned) will &quot;exploit&quot; the system of tax laws to get you a better tax return, or a lawyer will &quot;exploit&quot; certain legal systems to get you a more favorable court ruling.

The only question that matters therefore is one of public perception. (How much does the public value/like lawyers for instance?) This is the challenge for SEOs; maintaining a &quot;don&#039;t be evil&quot; public illusion while holding the gate keys and being the gatekeepers (a challenge they are obviously meeting with limited success ~ as communities like Digg and MBL are a currently testament to).

The best thing SEOs as a community might explore is a widely adopted &quot;oath&quot; type mechanism (such as a doctor&#039;s &quot;Hippocratic Oath&quot;) to promote (at bare minimum, superficially) an acknowledgement of ethical practice to appease the outside community and downplay the indy-type, rogue, trickster, con-man, swindler image SEOs currently have. I doubt that will happen simply because SEOs are indy-types, rogues, tricksters etc. who don&#039;t &quot;play-by-the-rules&quot; by definition; that&#039;s what SEO is -- a modification/amplification of &quot;the normal&quot;, thus the optimizing activity. But now I&#039;m getting way too technical and philosophic and idealistic at the same time and history leads me to believe idealism is not a tool often reached for in the SEO tool bag. SEO is a practical discipline with a very outsider/rebel tradition. Oftentimes that very tradition and impression rubs the less clever and less daring people the wrong way, especially if they been waiting-in-line an awfully long time (when the SEO goes speeding past ;-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason someone could legitimately say it&#8217;s &#8220;black hat&#8221; is the same reason &#8220;IP-delivery&#8221; is labeled &#8220;black hat&#8221; &#8212; ie. you are serving up two different stories as a deliberate confidence trick in an attempt to intentionally mislead with the goal of financial or other personal gain (ie. increased monetization through better serps, for instance).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an exploit pure and simple, the same way your tax accountant (as I mentioned) will &#8220;exploit&#8221; the system of tax laws to get you a better tax return, or a lawyer will &#8220;exploit&#8221; certain legal systems to get you a more favorable court ruling.</p>
<p>The only question that matters therefore is one of public perception. (How much does the public value/like lawyers for instance?) This is the challenge for SEOs; maintaining a &#8220;don&#8217;t be evil&#8221; public illusion while holding the gate keys and being the gatekeepers (a challenge they are obviously meeting with limited success ~ as communities like Digg and MBL are a currently testament to).</p>
<p>The best thing SEOs as a community might explore is a widely adopted &#8220;oath&#8221; type mechanism (such as a doctor&#8217;s &#8220;Hippocratic Oath&#8221;) to promote (at bare minimum, superficially) an acknowledgement of ethical practice to appease the outside community and downplay the indy-type, rogue, trickster, con-man, swindler image SEOs currently have. I doubt that will happen simply because SEOs are indy-types, rogues, tricksters etc. who don&#8217;t &#8220;play-by-the-rules&#8221; by definition; that&#8217;s what SEO is &#8212; a modification/amplification of &#8220;the normal&#8221;, thus the optimizing activity. But now I&#8217;m getting way too technical and philosophic and idealistic at the same time and history leads me to believe idealism is not a tool often reached for in the SEO tool bag. SEO is a practical discipline with a very outsider/rebel tradition. Oftentimes that very tradition and impression rubs the less clever and less daring people the wrong way, especially if they been waiting-in-line an awfully long time (when the SEO goes speeding past ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/some-seos-suggest-to-verify-but-not-submit-a-google-sitemap-10569/comment-page-1#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, are you saying don&#039;t provide sitemaps and ror files on the Web site?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, are you saying don&#8217;t provide sitemaps and ror files on the Web site?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martinez</title>
		<link>http://searchengineland.com/some-seos-suggest-to-verify-but-not-submit-a-google-sitemap-10569/comment-page-1#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see anything black hat about the practice.  Why should you have to submit an XML sitemap to use the Webmaster Central tools?

A well-crawled site won&#039;t benefit from XML sitemaps as much as a new, large content domain that needs to be crawled and indexed quickly.  It makes sense to monitor your organic crawling when you&#039;ve achieved significant indexing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see anything black hat about the practice.  Why should you have to submit an XML sitemap to use the Webmaster Central tools?</p>
<p>A well-crawled site won&#8217;t benefit from XML sitemaps as much as a new, large content domain that needs to be crawled and indexed quickly.  It makes sense to monitor your organic crawling when you&#8217;ve achieved significant indexing.</p>
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		<title>By: Content Strategist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Content Strategist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone could probably label this &quot;black hat&quot; in spirit or execution but nobody should say one shouldn&#039;t be well-versed in the architectonics of systems and processes which exist, so bravo to SEOs. It&#039;s sort like a tax accountant finding loop-holes for citizens to save extra dollars come tax time (but nobody boos the accountants so much, lawyers maybe). I like these tidbits of insightful information and I&#039;m glad the SEO community shares them but I also understand why some (ie. Diggers, others) may view SEOs as somewhat undesirables who &quot;game&quot; otherwise honest and merit-sensitive systems. My thinking is that the SEO community is just more honest and *transparent* about their activities (more mature about it I&#039;d say; confident and upstanding), and unfortunately such brazen visibility makes them a target for every grievance of milking-the-system in general.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone could probably label this &#8220;black hat&#8221; in spirit or execution but nobody should say one shouldn&#8217;t be well-versed in the architectonics of systems and processes which exist, so bravo to SEOs. It&#8217;s sort like a tax accountant finding loop-holes for citizens to save extra dollars come tax time (but nobody boos the accountants so much, lawyers maybe). I like these tidbits of insightful information and I&#8217;m glad the SEO community shares them but I also understand why some (ie. Diggers, others) may view SEOs as somewhat undesirables who &#8220;game&#8221; otherwise honest and merit-sensitive systems. My thinking is that the SEO community is just more honest and *transparent* about their activities (more mature about it I&#8217;d say; confident and upstanding), and unfortunately such brazen visibility makes them a target for every grievance of milking-the-system in general.</p>
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