• http://www.webmar-design.com/ Kristina Katalinic

    Like you said Bryson its the “majority of developers implementing responsive web design are doing it in a way that makes for a poor user experience”. So essentially the problem is not in Responsive web design but developers who execute it poorly. I develop mobile first responsive web sites and my websites load 95% faster than the rest of the world. A lot depends on the framework used. Personally I prefer Drupal Omega which so flexible it will serve a distinct stylesheets for mobile and desktop users which then opens a world of possibilities like serving smaller file size images to mobile users and then if you combine it with Contexts you can serve content selectively too.

  • http://twitter.com/aschottmuller Angie Schottmuller

    Bryson, it’s nice to always have an opposing argument out there. =) You help me audit what I believe and why I believe it.

    With the exception of a separate, very mini site for feature phones, I strongly believe responsive design is always the way to go. It’s not a myth. It’s not rocket science to do the basic configuration either. There is no such thing as “mobile” anymore — there’s only screen size, touchscreen-enabled, and phone call-capable differences. Anyone intentionally building a separate mobile website from scratch has unfortunately been mislead. Anything you could do with a separate site, you could do more efficiently with a responsive site.

  • epearson001

    Your reasoning for those points are flawed, as pointed out correctly a number of times in the comments. All real concerns about pages speed, keywords, ect can all be corrected with proper planning and implementation. This article was just created to gain page views, has nothing productive to say, and is generally a waste of time. You should hold yourself to a much higher standard for the posts on this site.

  • http://www.brysonmeunier.com/ Bryson Meunier

    Angie, thanks for the comment. I understand and respect your opinion, but unfortunately it doesn’t address any of the five points that I’ve mentioned where responsive design can be bad for the user and for SEO. If you’d care to address any of them I’d be happy to continue this discussion. As it is we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

  • http://www.brysonmeunier.com/ Bryson Meunier

    You should should hold yourself to a much higher standard for comments, as you haven’t addressed any of the points or pointed out why the reasoning is flawed. As I said, three of those things can’t be corrected with proper planning and implementation and you have added nothing to the discussion. Please read the entire post and comments before you feel compelled to respond again. As it is your comments are rude and uninformed.

  • http://www.mobilemartin.com/ Michael Martin

    Just a quick note on this, although feature phones are just south of 50% here in the US they are only about 10% of all mobile search.

    While in India feature phones are used much more, where certain terms are searched 10 times more on feature vs smart phone.

    So Ryan, for the US you can conceivably ignore feature phone search, but internationally that would be a poor choice, specifically India.

  • veruIE

    I definitely agree with your idea and your post and I think people/Seo experts/analyzers mislead a bit what Google states about RWD tout court… Just think about keyword research and this is a big point: people look differently on mobile and on the web, why should we give them the same experience and tryto be very well indexed by Google for our mobile version? Or, in another way, why shouldn’t be indexed for different keywords according to our end user’s researches on mobile? RWD doesn’t allow to differ between mobile and desktop and this means we potentially could loose audience and not be indexed by search engines.I tried to pointed out this on Mobiforge, if you want have a look! http://mobiforge.com/starting/blog/why-responsive-web-design-not-always-best-option-a-mobile-seo-strategy

  • http://www.facebook.com/winithemescom Wini Themes

    Great post Bryson! Although the vast majority of websites are still adopting the Responsive Design. How did you define the Revised Decision Tree, is it based on some stats?

  • http://www.web101marketing.com Tom Parker

    After reading through an article, that even includes tl;dr, I not only read the article, I read through all the posts. Woo hoo! Do i get a merit badge for this? It’s like one of those times where you are a fly on the wall, listening to all the conversation. Well, this is what the fly thinks:

    1 – The article starts out with a flawed title, indicating that Responsive Design could be bad for SEO.. but hey…. the title caught a lot of attention and comments right?… good for your seo.

    2 – The author and many of the commenters are bickering over Google statements, picking apart how it’s worded, kinda like the Pharisee’s trying to bicker the scriptures with Jesus. Not saying the author is like Jesus, more like the author and some commenters are like bickering Pharisees.

    3 – I’m just a website designer/developer/marketer with an ambition of helping small business owners have a successful website presence. Perhaps most of this article’s discussion is more about banks, and big box stores, maybe insurance companies, etc. For the local hometown biz, the best approach is a responsive design… and NOT mobile first! You create a desktop/ipad version, with mobile in mind.

    With that said, I’m not going to debate the 5 points, though I could… don’t want this post to be tl;dr.

    I do need to say one more thing though. After all the comments made to you Bryson, you still had the nerve? audacity? ignorance?…to post the following response?

    ” Finally, non-white: http://www.merriam-webster.com
    If you’re using demographic targeting, as some marketers do, responsive
    web design doesn’t make a lot of sense if you’re targeting anyone other
    than rich white guys in the United States.”

    You sir… are an _______! (fill in the blanks.)

  • http://www.brysonmeunier.com/ Bryson Meunier

    Tom, thanks for the comments (though I could do without the insults). I’m glad you read the post and the comments all the way through, but you missed this one to Sean Tubridy above: “Actually you have a great point about the rich white guys line. I was reversing it accidentally. My mistake. As I said in the article I linked to, you actually have a better chance than not of reaching non-white smartphone users in the U.S. according to Nielsen data. My mistake there shouldn’t negate the other points I’ve made, however. And the point should actually stand with regard to demographic targeting, as you don’t have a great chance of reaching older, white people in the US if you only make a site responsive.”.

    A**holes don’t admit when they’ve made a mistake, but I clearly did.

    Nothing flawed about the title. In the post and in my upcoming column I cite many examples of when cites designed responsively are not very responsive at all. This is bad for the user experience and SEO.

    Responsive design is better than nothing, and it could be good for the businesses you’re serving. My point is that it’s not always best for SEO, as 100% of MBAs and SEOs recently surveyed believed. I believe I made that point. If it’s not applicable to you you’re welcome to continue doing things as you had before.

  • http://www.web101marketing.com Tom Parker

    I apologize Bryson for insulting you. Now I’m getting back to work on my latest responsive web design. Have a good day.