• http://kevgibbo kevgibbo

    Hey Matt – completely agree, Wikipedia are always going to rank highly for informational queries – which is why I wasn’t surprised to see their 99% dominance of page one rankings.

    A study on more transactional queries would definitely be very insightful!

  • Aaron
  • Matt McGee

    Thx Kevin & Aaron. I’m aware there have been studies like this done in the past — Google even cites the one(s) that say Bing favors Wikipedia more. But we need something more current, I think.

  • http://kevgibbo kevgibbo

    It would be great to get a wider study on this, I’ve just asked Sam from Intelligent Positioning about extending the original and it is something they are looking at.

    Steve Plunkett made a valid point on Twitter, that 84% of the webs queries contain more than one word – so while the sample we have is interesting to see (and at the moment all we’ve got, at least recently), it would be great to see the bigger picture on this.

    My post was more about the SEO principles and strategy that Wikipedia do such a great job on, I think those concepts apply across different types and lengths of queries. But agree that they’re never going to dominate search to the same extent for longer-tail, transactional queries.

  • samcope

    Hi Matt – nice post.

    Firstly, I totally agree, the Tortoise page on wikipedia is excellent. Plus i don’t believe for a second that Wiki shouldn’t be page one (or position one) for that search and multitudes of others.

    People have got quite het-up about this. Some say there should have been a million samples. Others say i should have picked brand terms (?), others have told me how great Wikipedia is (i know), others have made the single-word point.

    The study is what it is: to see how Wikipedia performs for random single-word searches.

    As you point out, its on its way to fulfilling the 27% area of searches. But this study never set out to prove anything, just to open debate and ask questions. Not to slate the world’s best site (wiki that is).

    I wanted it to be random thus having a controlling factor, where the searches weren’t determined by popularity, usage, location or whatever, hence tortoise, snowflake and liquid etc were there. But there were also big terms such as loans, television and computer.

    If i had chosen words (based on my opinion, the most competitive search terms, the world’s biggest brands) then that would be flawed too.

    We’ll be doing more searches in our other European offices in different languages. Plus your methodology seems sound. It’s just a matter of picking those appropriate terms – fairly.

    Thanks a lot and thanks to Kevin too.
    Intelligent Positioning

  • http://NetArgument.com Ramesh

    Google favors wikipedia. This can be demonstrated very easily by searching for keyword – Scholarpedia quantum mechanics. Google having understood very well that the person is seeking result from scholarpedia, would return results from wikipedia on top. http://www.google.co.in/search?q=quantum+scholarpedia&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=NEe&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=scholarpedia+quantum+mechanics&pbx=1&oq=scholarpedia+quantum+&aq=2v&aqi=g-v3&aql=&gs_sm=1&gs_upl=0l0l1l7750l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=192c583e64b4624f&biw=1280&bih=697

    One may wonder, who is the greater evil, Google or Wikipedia. Shame on you Google.

  • http://www.conductor.com Nathan Safran

    Hey Matt,

    I think you make some valid points about this study. I think we have the data at Conductor to complete the study you are looking for. I’ll take a closer look once we are on the other side of SMX West and will update you then :-)

    -Nathan Safran
    Conductor, Inc

  • http://www.search-usability.com/ Shari Thurow

    Hi all-

    Wow…I’d say the study is flawed. Searcher goals are currently classified as informational, navigational, and transactional. Did the study just throw words out (as indicated here) or did they take those words and use them in context of searcher goals?

    If web searchers do not provide context, then they leave it up to the search engines to determine the context. A one-word query (unless it is a navigational query) generally doesn’t provide context, which makes informational websites, like Wikipedia, a reasonable search listing to display. In fact, the appearance of a Wikipedia listing on the first page is a strong indication that the keyword(s) show informational intent.

    Data without context is just data. Wrong context? Probably wrong analysis and conclusions, or at least inaccurate.

  • http://www.textilesinfomediary.com T.I.

    Wikipedia have earned its reputation as neutral online accessible authentic resource for people by the people.
    Other people can open there account with wiki and express there concern with particular issue.
    Which may take first position in google result. So no argument rest against it.

  • http://www.NetArgument.com ramesh

    “… Neutral, Online, accessible authentic….” Oh really?
    Surely, it is accessible and online, courtesy Google, but that doesn’t make it authentic and neutral.
    Also, you cannot ask others to express their concern there, because that site operates within close loop of admins and their cabal. Unfortunately you also can’t close the arguments against it, because it is not Wikipedia Administrator’s Notice Board.
    One more piece is here http://www.netargument.com/2012/01/wikipedia-new-age-porn-magazine.html