• http://www.seo-theory.com/ Michael Martinez

    Well, I don’t know anyone who uses the service but it looks to me like (just scanning their FAQ) they didn’t get the memo about editorial control. The publishers don’t have the final say over how content is to be managed on their site. That’s not a negotiable point. If the publisher has to ask permission to “nofollow” a link, that’s a problem.

  • Rugged Penguin

    Actually, from the backend, there are two options: Guest Post and Sponsored Post (advertorial). Sponsored posts are all nofollow links, guest posts are not. Pretty straight forward.

  • Parmveer Singh

    I know, its being irrelevant here to raise this question… Google seems to be after guest posting now and taking every possible action against it.

    But I wondered about ‘Link Directories’ (which have been an ancient story), I can still find such link farms with lots of indexed pages and PageRank 5, 6 even 7.

    The same story is with ‘Article Directories’.

    Why Google is not taking strict action against them as of Guest Blogging Networks?

    Can you help me to find the appropriate answer for it.

  • http://conversionchamp.com/ Adarsh Thampy

    I am not surprised. In fact, PostJoint deserves to be hit before MBG. PostJoint requires you to pay for every guest post you want to publish through their system- which makes them nothing but a paid blog network.

  • http://www.rewindseo.com/ Daniel Delos

    Google Penguin his hit link directory links hard for the last two years. They don’t need to waste time on any manual actions for that. As to why they don’t deindex or devalue them completely, is for fear, uncertainty and doubt. They can use link directories with Penguin to catch sites falling for spammy link building.

    Link directories themselves are big business since they can charge $5-$20 per link for removing these links to penalized sites when they do get hit with manual penalties.

  • Parmveer Singh

    You mean that Google uses these ‘Link & Article Directories’ as trap for newbies :)

    Every time manual penalty is not required, algorithmic penalty can do a fine job since such directories are easily detectable.

    Can any body raise this question to Matt Cutts to answer in his coming Webmaster Video?

  • $36055288

    Search needs to democratize itself from what’s becoming a search monopoly. Google needs an FTC spanking.

  • PostJoint

    Barry – It’s quite simple actually. Penalised sites usually have their PR dropped, so we checked for this across our database.

  • Simon Barrett

    I am confused, but that is normal. I am not sure what the issue is with Guest Blogging. I run a Google News accredited site. I will occasionaly run an article by a guest blogger. I have three retired gentleman A doctor, a tax collector and a cold war warrior. They are all in their 80’s and they send me articles that I publish as a guest article. I see no harm in this, the only advertising is an amazon link to the books they have written.

    Am I missing something?

  • http://myblogguest.com/blog/ Ann Smarty

    Counting how many publishers were hit should be easy: Simply see how many sites in your system have dropped toolbar PR

  • PostJoint

    That’s exactly what we did, since we made regular PR checks on every site and stored this data from day one, we just had to run a custom query on our DB to look for losses.

  • http://www.geneeugenio.com Gene Eugenio

    Is it because there was payment involved? There are FREE guest post platforms out there. Will they survive?

  • BeachWebDesigner

    This is an excellent question.

  • DaymonH

    If you’re “trying” to get backlinks to your website to raise it’s position in serps you’re going to get slammed at some point. If you’re a network taking advantage of simpletons using these tactics you’re eventually going to get slammed too, and it serves you right.

  • http://swiftpropel.com Vijay Sood

    For all the SEO’s out there, I can say only one thing, “Get Better because Google is getting smarter everyday”.

  • Jonathan Jones

    It was only a matter of time after MBG was hit with a penalty. I’m just glad that I had not used PostJoint and was only curious.

  • http://www.sbwebcenter.com/ Steve B

    Simon, they have you right where they want you… confused.

  • http://markyourmedia.com Stephen Alberts

    So if I were to post on a site in my niche and give valuable information, is that considered bad? I just don’t get how guest posting can be banned throughout the internet. I can see the blackhat type of guest posting but quality content on other sites rather than your own is helpful to users.

  • Guest

    Once again Google has no problem selling ad-words to Post joint. the hypocrisy continues to grow.

  • Simon Barrett

    I just wish that someone would explain the rules of engagement. My site is mostly hobby, Google helps pay the bill for it. I have no wish to get on their bad side, but to be honest I doubt that I would lose too much sleep. Just tell me in simple terms what are the rules…..

  • Hannah

    Oh Simon.. I think we’re all thinking the same thing. Whatever the “acceptable” rules are will be different 2 years from now.

  • http://www.kirbyhopper.com/ Kirby Hopper

    If Google’s ultimate goal is rewarding quality content how in the world did they determine the bloggers weren’t increasing the quality of their blogs by receiving paid guest posts?

  • Charles Cawley

    Google appears to think it can play God with information.

    Instead of sorting out its fundamental indexing problem it thinks it can put off the day indefinitely by ordering website owners how to operate and what they can write.

    Such an approach will, eventually, lead to failure. Innovation and not policing is the only way.

  • Charles Cawley

    Google appears to think it can play God with information.

    Instead of sorting out its fundamental indexing problem it thinks it can put off the day indefinitely by ordering website owners how to operate and what they can write.

    Such an approach will, eventually, lead to failure. Innovation and not policing is the only way.

  • Charles Cawley

    The truth is that Google has major innovation issues. It has become middle aged and is at the stage where it thinks you can buy in these things. The problem is with its maturing unreformed corporate culture. The brutal competition of the www could bring it down just as quickly as it dealt with Yahoo. Cutts ordering people what they can and cannot do is no answer. Google needs an Alan Turing or Jeffreys (Zygalski sheets etc: at Bletchley) but they have Martin and chums. It is astonishingly vulnerable and is not winning what is a gigantic information war.

  • Charles Cawley

    The truth is that Google has major innovation issues. It has become middle aged and is at the stage where it thinks you can buy in these things. The problem is with its maturing unreformed corporate culture. The brutal competition of the www could bring it down just as quickly as it dealt with Yahoo. Cutts ordering people what they can and cannot do is no answer. Google needs an Alan Turing or Jeffreys (Zygalski sheets etc: at Bletchley) but they have Martin and chums. It is astonishingly vulnerable and is not winning what is a gigantic information war.

  • Craig Gilhooly

    How many sites use MBG as well as Post Joint? Must be a substantial cross over of sites who were already hit.

  • Craig Gilhooly

    How many sites use MBG as well as Post Joint? Must be a substantial cross over of sites who were already hit.

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  • Charles Cawley

    I am amazed most people do not see the real problem. Google has failed to innovate its indexing system choosing, instead, to try to order the www to suit its weakness. A strong system could short things for itself instead of relying on sanctions to try to force the www to its will. It is only a matter of time before such a policy will come unstuck.

  • Charles Cawley

    I am amazed most people do not see the real problem. Google has failed to innovate its indexing system choosing, instead, to try to order the www to suit its weakness. A strong system could short things for itself instead of relying on sanctions to try to force the www to its will. It is only a matter of time before such a policy will come unstuck.

  • Ryne Landers

    MBG was free, so Google is agnostic in whether the articles are free or paid.

  • Guest

    Doing Guest Posting for your competitors is the new Negative SEO.

  • http://www.fiswebdesign.com/ Aaron Hemmelgarn

    Anything you have to PAY to become a member to and post your content is going to get dinged. Google is very clear on this issue. If you pay to play, your site will get penalized, period.

    Now, if you want to grow traffic to your social network and then direct that traffic to your site, that is a different story, because you’re passing your traffic through a social filter so to speak. Instead of using a link to your money site in the article, use a link to your Google+ page which has a post about the article and a link to the page on your site.

    This tactic gives the user/reader the ability to chose to click to go to the site and it’s not obvious to Google that you’re paying to drive traffic and build links to your website to game the search results.

  • http://www.geneeugenio.com Gene Eugenio

    Ryan, MBG was free for publishers but if you wanted your content offered for publication, you had to pay a PREMIUM fee.

  • http://inthenews.com Mike Taylor

    “Google can’t in fact trace all of the sites using PostJoint” – Is that a Challenge to #MattCutts or what?