• Jon

    Bangyoulater.com

  • http://www.torontoseogroup.com/ Mike Childs

    A lot of fuss and buzz for an update that, at SERP level, doesn’t seem to have hit the mark.

    I’m a bit worried because link spam has been an ongoing problem and with CTR manipulation starting to catch, it’s going to be messy imperfect fixes for the foreseeable future.

    My 2 cents anyway -

  • Chase Anderson

    Not sure what to make of the backlink profiles of these sites. Some of the gaming sites seem to show a trend of links coming from non-english speaking sites so that caught my eye. Some of the other domain links don’t seem egregious, just not good. I’ve seen a whole lot more sites with a whole lot worse backlink profiles – some of them continue to rank.

  • Ari Pournaras

    i noticed a major shift in the rankings today. The problem is that this update was meant to target blackhat/spam sites and link networks however from what i’ve seen so far the blackhat sites seem to be doing better in the rankings. Smaller affiliate sites seem to have been hit, however spam sites owned by link networks in the gambling industry are still up there on page 1 in Google UK. In some cases for some keywords spam sites are still taking up 3 to 6 positions out of 10 on page 1 in google…What i find quite interesting is that the previous update was aimed to all industries, the 1st update affected a lot of sites in different industries, this one seems to be more targeted..

  • Pete Morris

    The spam pages in query spaces that I keep an eye on don’t seem to have been hit at all. The top page for the highest traffic keyword that I keep an eye on has been ranking with blog comment and forum spam alone for the past 6 months, and continues to do so despite the Penguin 2.0 rollout.

    Yes, that’s blog comment and forum spam ALONE – they have not one backlink that isn’t auto-generated.

    Granted, I don’t know the technicalities of detecting spam, but this seems to be one of the more obvious spam patterns around, and they’re failing to address it over and over again.

    The hilarious thing is that the site in question is a thin affiliate site, which somehow has made it through the Panda filters too!

  • Chase Anderson

    100% agree with this statement. This is exactly where I am at. I thought these abuses would have been caught with Panda 2.0

  • http://www.merchantprocessingresource.com/ Sean Murray

    I was hootin and hollering all morning about how messed up all the results were but now that I’ve calmed down, I’ve concluded that nothing has really changed that much. A few things are definitely noticeable but they sky didn’t fall like Panda 1.

  • http://financegourmet.com/ Finance Gourmet

    I always wonder if these instant snapshots end up panning out over a longer term. I’ll have to check back and see. I wonder what searches they use for their visibility reports.

  • https://www.odesk.com/users/TOP-SEO-Professional-Google-Certified-Marketing-Consultant-Analyst_~~7b0dcfb086e2622f?sid=49002&tot=1&pos=0 Zain ejaz

    All that DMCA shit ! I know Google will strike harder and they did now!

  • shurikenlord

    Checking my rankings today and was literally jumping for joy:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M1sJr9MhapE/UZ6vsfuCIDI/AAAAAAAAItY/2VR9rmivARM/s320/penguin20.jpg

  • a1brandz

    Does this update will wipe out a large section of seo community.

  • haydeneck

    Cheers to WEBS.com for escaping!

  • Social Media Manager

    There was no BIG change Mr & Mrs Penguin 2.0 ! Reeds.com & Dish.com what are you upto? :(

  • http://www.stramark.nl/zoekmachine-marketing/ Wouter Blom @stramark

    i have seen drops especially in the long tail keywords (About 10-15% based on 400 tracked keywords). And what i have seen is that once a domain has been in the results, there are no new results for that domain. Before penguin2 i had 20 or 30 results in the top 250. now it is only one. Lucky for me it is the best result (top 10)

  • Juggernart Games

    Where are the winners?

    Another Penguin rolled out and all I can read about is labeled “loosers”.

    I thought many webmaster’s hope was to recover with this Penguin update, at least partly.

    Did anyone RECOVER from a previous penguin penalty?
    Didn’t Google promise that recovery is possible?

  • http://www.allviaweb.com Lily Grozeva

    “Juggermart Games” really?!

  • http://www.bloggerempire.com/ Ved Tiwari

    Impact of this update is much higher on Web Design and SEO industry apart gaming & porn sites…. SEO’s almost killed by Google in this penguin update…

  • http://www.yourwebseo.com/ Jatin Sharma

    fully agree to this still there are lots of domains having worst linking still rank gaming and porn sites got hurt with this updates, it’s not seems that big impact we were expecting. most of the porn sites had links from other porn websites their videos can be easy found as it is from other websites. I had seen they are using video graber kind of plugins to get their content in their websites not sure. I am waiting to hear what more other people who dropped their ranking after this effect next two days we can have the clear picture of it. :)

  • http://fredrikmh.com/ Fredrik Eriksson

    I agree! I have also noticed that web sites with thin content tend not to get hit by Panda. I assume it’s because they are too thin to take a drastic conclusion about it’s content. I have sites with 50-60 pages that were hit by Panda, but sites with 3 pages that doesn’t and rank well for competitive keywords.

  • http://twitter.com/ppetrovdotnet pip010

    go sue google now :)

  • http://www.brickmarketing.com/ Nick Stamoulis

    “some small business sites were hit because they haven’t taken SEO serious enough.”

    Interesting. Does this mean they didn’t really have any SEO to speak of? Or was it just the little SEO they did have wasn’t particularly good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/johnnyexchange Mark Miclette

    My traffic was hit about 5%… primarily due to results being trimmed to a single URL in places where I once had multiple. I accept my fate, but by doing this, google has moved up other sites with less quality info to replace my higher quality content. I’ll continue to make good content and hopefully gain back what I have lost.

  • Pete Morris

    But if a site is so thin that they can’t decide what it’s about, surely that’s an indication in itself that it shouldn’t be ranking. It’s not like they have a shortage of pages to show in its place!

    The site that I was talking about has no copy whatsoever, it’s just a page of Amazon widgets. To me, that alone is a strong enough signal to suggest that it shouldn’t be ranking. Add in the 100% spam backlink profile, and I just can’t understand how detecting such a page as spam is proving so difficult for them!

    It’s been there for 6 months now! To be honest, I can’t blame spammers for spamming – it clearly works. It shouldn’t, but it does.

  • http://www.LeadDiscovery.com/ Jerry Nordstrom

    Good news
    I’m getting keyword traffic sources with “人体解剖图 ” now I’m not exactly sure what that says, but I’m hoping it’s I want to buy something in Penguin speak.

    Honestly – I have seen few significant changes in rank for keywords that matter to the business model across 50 sites. Perhaps some deadwood has been cleared out, but thats about it.

  • http://fredrikmh.com/ Fredrik Eriksson

    Yes it’s weird and shouldn’t be like that.

  • http://www.hotmobilecasino.co.uk/ Mobile

    seen several spam sites rising to the top without having good content only a ton of backlinks and possibly some link insertions in trusted sites. Penguin 2.0 has been able to filter those out for good, quite the opposite as I have found more of doorway sites and framed ones with redirects.

  • http://www.hotmobilecasino.co.uk/ Mobile

    I meant Google has not been able to filter out those crappy sites, sorry for the confusion.
    I also noticed that very long domain names 60+letters/numbers with several keywords ranked well in google uk but not in google com is there some monopoly going on for Vegas terms in the search engines so Google can sell ads to bigger brands for more ?

  • Ryan Mendenhall

    Thanks Matt for sharing a bit about this new update!

  • http://www.seoclerks.com/ Jordan DeLozier

    This is what I am seeing for this update so far. 1 keyword/niche, 4 YouTube results, 1 blogspot, all terrible results.

  • Troy Foote

    I find it interesting that those who are most concerned with the updates are those who use less then ethical marketing methods or have sub par content. High quality content will win all the time.

  • Durant Imboden

    Actually, high-quality content *doesn’t* win all the time. If it did, Google’s SERPS for informational searches wouldn’t be saturated with stubs and UGC pages.

  • John Hacking

    Here’s my theory (just a theory based on some sites we have examined), as to what Penguin 2.0 means:

    - deranking domains listed in Project Honeypot
    - not counting links from blogs, forum profiles, Wikis and other web 2.0 sites that have a standard footprint
    - recalculating the value of links based on the number of links on a page
    - actually paying attention to the nofollow attribute
    - applying some sort of Mathematical magic to the relevance of page to page to page links
    - a combination of the above

  • Alex Chan

    Yeah this update was fairly low impact for non-risque sites. Which is great.. Sucks for porn sites. Surprised gambling isn’t in the mix there.

  • http://techedunews.com/ Michael Bond

    My website is Technology and Education based. So why my website loss 50% visitors? But my competitors are not.

    In my website Unique Content, Meta title, tag, Description, keyword density are OK but yet my post is not ranked.

    On the other hand, Some website which are not maintain these rules or instruction, they are on top ranking. Just i am surprised with Google behavior. Even some time they copy my website post/ article. Yet they are on top.

    I can’t understand whats the reason? Why Google doing this.

    I think its OK when i post a article with a High Competition keyword but when i post a local article with a low Competition keyword, why its happen?

  • Stephen Floyd

    Interesting article. I think that many of the high points of Penguin 2.0 have been addressed here. As usual there always seems to be discord between various “experts” in the SEO field. Personally, I have seen the most impact related to backlinks from low quality sites (de-indexed, no pr,etc) and over optimization of anchor text. Several of the higher competition markets I am in have sites in positions 1-3 with virtually NO keyword anchor text links, and very few links overall. Also, I have noticed that much high keyword density is being tolerated…I see many sites with 4-6% keyword density ranking….BUT, these sites usually have virtually no keyword anchor text links….
    As always, back to testing,testing,testing.

  • http://www.clippingpathindia.com/image-masking.html Image Masking

    On of our site ranking has lost. And we found some reason behind this like someone has fully copied our site and we are really worried about this. If someone don’t have the access on other site’s control panel then how
    this site ( [dramaqueenweddingshow.com] can be able to copy each and
    everything of [clippingpathspecialist.com] ? Even when we are doing any
    kind of editing now in [clippingpathspecialist.com] , how it possible
    that this change also executing in this site [dramaqueenweddingshow.com]
    ? Please let us know how it is happening? As it is a concerning issue
    for us.

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  • Laura Grace

    Who knows, maybe this one will take some time to percolate. It was turned on the 21st and is more of an ongoing system. Or it was a major change on the back end that will make refreshes easier or more accurate. Not sure why we all assume we know what the hell we are talking about…

  • http://www.richamorindonesia.com/ Rich Amor Indonesia

    I loss 30% of my traffics.
    There are some low quality contents (spinning articles), and the contents from off topic websites but still can defeat an original content from a true thematic websites.

    Perhaps google should launch a new algorithm to weight a post from the correct industry.

  • Arvind

    pls check dramaqueenweddingshow.com is redirecting to http://www.clippingpathspecialist.com . that is why its happening like this…

  • Min Park

    will this be a reason to SEO visibility loss on my brothel & escort website ?

    It doesn’t have “porn” stuff but just words like “brothel” “escort” “sex” but not excessively though.

    Anyway, it used to be on top but suddenly disappeared from the first page.

  • Mehul Chandani

    Google penguin is getting tough by every update. Many websites getting affected from it. Escort Website SEO should be done carefully because it get affected easily.

  • James Simmons

    nice and thanks

  • Razvan

    Working in the porn industry for 5 years now i come to the conclusion that google is worsening its SERPS each update. If you search for big semi-specific keywords, new sites, sites with no links and garbage shows up in the first 10 spots. The next update is sorting a few of them while promoting others that have the same characteristics SEO wise, no links, no structure, crappy/no content.

    I am not sure what they plan on doing but from my perspective everything goes to hell except big brands, this is not either fair or sustainable for google’s future.

    But thats their problem, they run their business however they want.

  • Diana Lynnwood

    Many people are jumping with joy and many are crying there is nothing we can change. But if we go with quality only than there will be a better ways those site list I am not including porn sites in them as they are unrated and don’t like them rest of them may have some bad quality links cos google is more concern about quality now.