A few weeks ago, I wrote about how to use your first meeting with a client to understand their business and collect information that could later inform your keyword research. Now, you’re back at your desk and wondering what to do with all that information.

To begin with, you should have three lists of keyword-types (I call them seeds):

Types of Keyword Seeds or Categories

Elements to include in keyword research

  1. Seeds most important to your clients (note that these may include jargon and industry-specific terms that need further research)
  2. Seeds that accurately describe the business (these would be your own layman’s terms for what this client does)
  3. Seeds that are not relevant or core to your client’s business

I like to refer to these as seeds because they are a seed of an idea that could grow into giant “trees” of information and possibilities.

There’s no need at this point to distinguish between “deck” and “decking” for example, and this is a mistake SEOs often make; trying to narrow the field too much too early.

Let’s dive into each of these a little more deeply using an example of a client I did work for: Artisan Construction Services.

Note that all of these lists have far more than 2-3 keywords on them, but for purposes of example, I’ve simplified them. This client is a local (to Raleigh, NC) remodeling company that specializes in building decks and screened porches and remodeling kitchens and bathrooms. (Those are my own words for List Two).

The owner of the company, when asked to describe the product in his own words, said:

“We provide decking, siding and window replacement, and interior remodeling.”

Seeds most important to the client (based on the above description and the keywords he mentioned) are decking, siding, windows and interior remodeling. This would be List One above.

Seeds that aren’t relevant (List Three above) are things the client prefers not to do or sub-contracts out, such as roofing (says he can never do it as cheaply as professional roofers), plumbing (he hates it) and highly specialized design work like tile inlays. He’s also not a licensed electrician. So these are keyword seeds to avoid.

Initial Lists of Keyword Seeds

Example of Keyword Seed Lists

List One

List One is based on jargon, and requires further research. The first thing I do with keywords like this is to look at competitors’ websites. I’ve gotten a list of competitors from the client that I’ll research, and I’ll also put these terms into Google or Bing and look at the sites that come up in the results (I’ll localize to Raleigh, NC so that I’m getting the most accurate set of competitors).

Reviewing these sites will give me more seeds to research based on that jargon. In this case, I found specific types of decking, such as composite and pressure-treated, and I found that many competitors also refer to screened porches as sunrooms or patios (which are slightly different, but may cover more potential customers).

One additional thing the client told me is that customers often aren’t sure of what they want until they call him in for an estimate, so I’m keeping this in mind. Also during my research, I found another competitor in search that wasn’t mentioned as a major competitor. I’ll put this on a list of things to ask the client about in our next meeting.

List One Keyword Seeds

Example of List One Expansion based on Competitors research

 

Next, I’ll look at how customers are actually referring to the different products and services.

I’ll use theGoogle Search Bar “related searches” area at the bottom of Google’s SERPs, Google Insights to look at trends, and the “Discussions” search option (click “More” under “Search” on the left side of a Google SERP page).

Based on what I found here, I’ve learned that many people are asking what the differences are between screened porches and sunrooms, as well as that they’re sometimes referred to as lanais or three-season porches. I’ll add these seeds to my research.

I also learned that many people are interested in enclosing an existing deck into a screened porch, or “winterizing” a screened porch. More seeds for my research.

To review, I’ve taken the keyword seeds [screened porch], [patio], and [sunroom] and added:

  • enclosing deck
  • winterizing porch
  • lanai
  • three-season porch

These are all things that my client’s customers are looking for that his competitors aren’t servicing. They should be easy wins.

Keyword Seeds List Two

Example of List Two expansion based on Google "Discussions"

List Two

I can research List Two in much the same way I did List One. I’ll add these seeds to the research as well.

List Three

List Three is a little different from the others. I won’t add these as seeds to my research, but I will save them for the elimination and refinement process later.

This is where instinct and experience becomes particularly useful, as it’s likely that I can take any list of keywords to avoid and expand it on instinct.

For example, based on what I know of this client, he already wants to avoid roofing, plumbing, tile, and electrical. But here are a few more statements I jotted down at our meeting that give me more clues:

  • “I’m not the best priced contractor out there, because I don’t hire any undocumented workers and I pay my taxes. But I am very experienced and my clients are always happy with my work.”

Now I know I need to avoid [cheap], [free], [low-cost], [best priced], and other keywords like that. [Quality], [experience] and [ethical] are possible modifiers that are allowed.

  • “I prefer to work with composite materials rather than pressure-treated lumber for decks. It’s much higher quality and creates a nicer finished product.”

So it’s a good idea to focus on any searches asking for the differences between those materials. Also I’ll probably weight the research more heavily to different types and brands of composite materials.

Another note I’m jotting down from this statement is to suggest the client create a page that discusses the pros and cons of composite vs. pressure-treated materials.

  • “A lot of customers get a quote from a company like SEARS home improvement when they’re thinking about doing a remodeling project. This makes it tough for me because the materials that SEARS uses are limited to less-expensive ones. It helps me a lot if I can get a sense of a client’s budget beforehand; a single project can vary by thousands of dollars depending on the materials used. But of course, nicer materials create a nicer finished project.”

I’m not exactly sure what I could take from this, but there are likely to be a lot of keywords related to home improvement and/or SEARS.

I’ll be careful of those keywords and use something like Google Insights to determine if those trend higher at a certain time of year. I might even put them into a tool like ComScore to see if I can determine if people who search for [home improvement] related terms are in a lower income bracket. Of course, I also know I’ll have to avoid any keywords having to do with the television program of the same name.

Keyword Seeds List Three

Example of expansion of List Three based on notes from the client meeting

This is just the tip of the iceberg for keyword research. The proverbial “rabbit hole” can get very deep sometimes, so it’s important to make good decisions about which keywords to expand and which to keep at surface level.

I’m sure at this point, you’re wondering why I haven’t mentioned Google’s Keyword Frequency Tool. Researching search frequency can be very useful, especially in determining how far to expand a certain keyword seed. For example, I found almost immediately that [lanai] has very low search frequency. So I didn’t spend a lot of time on it.

Conversely, I found that [enclosing deck] is actually quite large, especially when viewed through Google Insights in the spring and summer months, localized to North Carolina.

Ultimately, I’ll put all of these keyword seeds into the Google Keyword Tool to find the most highly searched combinations of keywords and an overall estimate of the search frequency of one service (decks) over another (window replacement). This will help me guide the client on what content should be created for the website.

I prefer to do most of the research in the manner discussed above, and then use search frequency to refine, categorize and prioritize it. I have certain tools and formulas that I use to do that. Next time, I’ll give you these tools and explain how to refine what you’ve found and present it to your client.

Thanks to Artisan Construction for allowing me to use them as an example.

Opinions expressed in the article are those of the guest author and not necessarily Search Engine Land.

Related Topics: Channel: SEO | How To: SEO | Keywords & Content | SEM Tools: Keyword Research

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About The Author: is the President of an online marketing consulting company offering SEO, PPC, and Web Design services. She's been in search since 2000 and focuses on long term strategies, intuitive user experience and successful customer acquisition. She occasionally offers her personal insights on her blog, JLH Marketing.

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  • http://www.brickmarketing.com Nick Stamoulis

    This is a great keyword research strategy. Listening to the client can provide you with insights and potential keywords that they might not have even thought of. Conducting research is essential for this reason. While a client may think that they know what keywords to go after, there is no way to know for sure how target members are actually searching without spending the time doing research.

  • jhuman

    Nice post! I would add exploring Google analytics from the web master central to find “hidden” and relevant keywords. I also use a proprietary tool to show the chances of getting 1st SERP and the likliness of achieving that ranking relative to the competition.

  • http://www.blumenthaldesigngroup.com danblu

    Great article. How many keywords in seed group one would you explore? To what depth would you continue to make an analysis and recommendation?
    Thanks,
    Dan

  • http://www.jlh-marketing.com Jenny Halasz

    @Nick, thanks for the comments, couldn’t agree more.

    @jhuman, Google Analytics is indeed a great place to look for more keywords, as is Webmaster Tools (Google and Bing). I often use them as additional sources of research, but this article was more about uncovering keywords that aren’t already driving traffic to a site.

    @danblu, it’s difficult to put a target number of keywords on a seed group because the number of keywords varies so much by industry, site, and even category. I find that I get the best results in the next step (my next article in the series) of the research if I try to keep it under 20-25 per group. Sometimes that means I might have 10 or 15 sub groups in seed group one though.

  • http://blog.webpro.in Bharati

    After a long long time read an article about Keyword Research which is so familiar to what we follow.

    I had expressed my views related to keyword research on

    http://blog.webpro.in/2011/11/right-approach-for-keyword-research.html

    Usually people follow the keyword research tools and try to target a few keywords. But instead according to me the focus should be on the possible psychologies of people from various geographic areas unless you are focusing only on a very specific region where only the lingo and jargon of that place matters for the search of that site.

    People from different places , of different age groups and of different educational backgrounds think differently and use different terminology and jargon. Hence the content of the website should be written keeping this in mind. Instead of focusing on only certain fixed key terms we should try to keep the possibilities of a wider set of permutations and combinations of keyphrases open for the site.

  • http://www.jlh-marketing.com Jenny Halasz

    @Bharati, that’s exactly what I mean by the “Rabbit Hole”. In the US, “falling down a rabbit hole” means you are going into unknown territory that could be much, much deeper than you expect. The reason I advise people to use “seeds” is to keep from going too deep too fast. It’s so easy to get lost in all the different permutations of a keyword – such as “deck”, “decks”, “decking”, or even the word “deck” in other languages if it were relevant, but you’d miss the other seeds you should be looking at, like “porch”, “lanai”, “sunroom”. And to your point, there may be different age groups and educational backgrounds that are looking for these slightly different terms and finding nothing when they could be finding you. Thanks!

  • http://www.rimmkaufman.com George Michie

    Jenny, kudos on a really well written piece. Your use of a concrete case to exemplify your methodology is very effective. Good stuff.

  • http://www.jlh-marketing.com Jenny Halasz

    Thank you, George! Glad you enjoyed it. More to come!

  • http://www.videoleadsonline.com RonnieBincer

    Great article… nice examples on how we get to “interpret” what was said by our clients. Looking forward to your next article. Even though you have tried to simplify here, it is apparent that the Rabbit Hole is just part of what we do. Hopefully we can have a “shorter safety line” to help us get back out after reading your stuff.

  • ashleyjetjaden

    What a wonderful article, Jenny. Like George said, using concrete examples is an effective way to explain and explore a topic. Instead of rehashing some esoteric gobbledegook, you provided us with a unique case and then broke it down to a real-world application.

    Kudos to you!

 

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