• Kevin Dunlap

    I find Bing to be a bit of a joke. I never use it.

  • Winooski

    Danny, well documented and well articulated.

    It’s one thing for us to have knee-jerk skepticism about these huge companies’ hypocrisy with their policies (e.g., Google’s willingness, in the name of “user privacy”, to block referrer keywords for logged-in visitors if they click an organic link but not if they click a paid link), but it’s another thing to thoroughly and consistently document the hypocrisy. You and Search Engine Land do just that, and we are in your debt.

  • TimmyTime

    Yeah Bing, when users search for “Black Friday ads” they want to read a novel about it, not see “thin content” or what Walmart and Sears etc.. have on sale.

    They sold their soul for a few bucks, at least Google makes billions of it.

    FTC should force them to label their own offering as advertisements, with the word “ADVERTISEMENT” written in at least 12px, #333333 or darker color and on top .

  • http://www.seo.com David Malmborg

    Super interesting. Do we have any idea when these sites where pushed out of their index?

  • http://www.bradsdeals.com Rebecca Lehmann

    David:
    It happened between 1-2pm on Monday 11/21 – basically Bing hit us precisely when it would hurt us the most. Both of our BF and CM sites were dropped at exactly the same time, so I’m assuming that our competitors were hit at that time as well.

  • TimmyTime

    “basically Bing hit us precisely when it would hurt us the most”

    actually when it enriched them the most.

    Stupid shortsighted people, what a way to lose any credibility they may have had and to bring government attention.

    BFads.net might have escaped due to the name, it’s obvious they went after those site by domain name strings not content.

  • http://www.GaryBurtka.com Gary Burtka

    Logically speaking, as sites are built to focus on more niche & relevant content, said content sites will ‘appear’ thinner than general news & content sites. After years of search engines preaching relevancy, to give these niche specialty sites the boot only to allow broad content sites with keyword rich sub domains to rank is not only a slap in the face but insults everyone’s basic intelligence.

  • http://www.GaryBurtka.com Gary Burtka

    One other interesting note: BlackFriday2011.com has over 300,000 Facebook fans. Where was the FB portion of the algo on this update?

  • scottsilverman

    I wonder if Bing knows that the affiliate revenue that Shop.org collects from Cybermonday.com goes to the Ray M. Greenly Scholarship Fund (http://www.shop.org/web/guest/about/scholarshipinfo). They are banning a site that is encouraging bright students to pursue careers in e-commerce. Yikes!

  • TimmyTime

    disclaimer: None of my sites have been touched –

    Bing has lost any credibility they had as a search engine, no one should even consider them as serious engineers. They ruined their user’s experience for a bit of money like cheap car salesmen. Laugh at their face when they talk about “user experience,” when the screen is filled with Mashable, HuffPost and eHow “Cyber Monday” articles. Comparing and listing all BF /CM deals is the total opposite of “thin” content for the occasion, that’s what people want. Funny how thin content is OK on Bing deals or Google Places and Products? Users don’t mind that, huh?

    But Danny I think you have Panda wrong, “thin” content is perfectly fine for brands, even if it runs into millions of pages. The rules apply to non-branded sites and those that Google tried to deliberately target (eHow etc.)
    Open a Google Adwords account, advertise out of the wazoo and you get out of Panda.

    We no longer have search engines, but money grubbing entities that instead of worrying about user experience they worry more if listed sites are making money that the SE could make. A page full of ads is no longer enough for them, they have to control everything. So we should welcome FTC in the mix.

  • http://flypatterns.org Rob Woods

    I just noticed today (Dec. 12) that Bing has started quietly unbanning these sites. Several of the sites that were banned for being “thin” sites are back in the index with no changes to the sites whatsoever. I guess now that the peak traffic is over for Black Friday / Cyber Monday the sites are somehow no longer thin. Sites back in as of 1 pm PST are blackfriday.info, black-friday.net, blackfriday2011.com, cybermonday.com, blackfriday.com (only 5 pages), and cybermonday.net (only a single page). If they reappear the way they disappeared I’d expect the others to be back in the index fully within a day.

    The question is: Is this a one off where Bing got caught with their hand in the cookie jar or will they do the same to other seasonal sites if they feel they can monetize the traffic better by serving their own ads?