• http://tins.rklau.com/ rklau

    Hi Danny – Looking forward to talking about this with you this afternoon. In the meantime, for anyone reading this, I thought a couple comments were worth making:

    * when we revised the DMCA form this summer, it was in part in response to rights holders (like you) expressing frustration over the process. We tried to simplify it, and our commitment is to act on submissions via the form within 48 hours. From your post, it’s clear that the form itself leaves room for improvement; I’m looking into ways to address this (esp. the AdSense policy violation page).

    * re: repeat violators. As we mention on our DMCA page (http://www.google.com/blogger_dmca.html), we *do* terminate accounts for people who’ve repeatedly violated our content policy.

    I’m open to ways of making this more responsive to content owners’ needs, and eager to address concerns by you and others that we’re somehow incented to perpetuate this content. We’re not. We actively combat abusive content – whether it’s scraped content (the case you outlined), malicious (distributing malware, for instance) or otherwise harmful – and take down scores of these blogs on a regular basis.

    That said, thanks for bringing it up. Hoping that after talking I come away with some additional ideas for how to improve things.


  • syns0r

    Hey Danny,
    To get the Report Abuse link for the blogger blog in question. Change the ‘Page Style’ to ‘No Style’ in firefox and then do a find for Report Abuse and you will see the link.
    The thief has it hidden it with CSS so just disable the CSS and report him (or her).


  • http://www.fairsyndication.org richpearson

    Hi Danny,

    Unfortunately, cases like this are pretty common for anyone publishing quality content. Interested if you would to prefer to share in the AdSense revenue made from sites like these vs taking them down?

    AdSense would still get its cut, but the remainder of adsense revenue would be split between you and the republisher.

  • Monte

    Great post Danny. Maybe Matt will get back to you. Keep up the good work.

  • http://www.marketingwords.com Karon Thackston

    I have experienced the same frustration. There is a site hosted by Google that is giving away one of my books as well as over 700 other ebooks. I’ve contacted Blogger and gotten no response. I’ve faxed a DMCA report to Google — twice two weeks apart — and gotten no response.

    I’ve resorted to contacting others whose books are being given away free of charge – including the publisher of the famous Dummies books – so they can have their legal departments jump on board.

    It really is frustrating to supposedly have this wonderful legislation on our side but to face unresponsive and seemingly uncaring hosts who refuse to take action.

    What’s the point of having the DMCA at our disposal if the complaints get ignored?

  • Richard A

    Don’t celebrate too soon. Based on my experience the action they will take is that in about 4 weeks time you’ll get an e-mail inviting you to submit a DMCA notice in writing and that’s it!

  • http://tins.rklau.com/ rklau

    @Karon – Please e-mail me any specifics (rklau -at- google.com) and I’ll work with our removals team to find out why this didn’t get addressed in a more timely manner. Really sorry to hear that we haven’t been as responsive as you expected. Also interested to hear why you faxed the DMCA complaints instead of using our web form?

  • http://www.JiansNet.com briteguy

    I think scraper sites like trailfire.com also presents the same problem for us content writers. They have a html frame that displays other websites content without permission, but with no links or whatsoever to the original content. Also, it is all under the so-called “innovation” of discovering the useful stuff on the web.

    I think Google should remove trailfire.com and such scraper sites from the search index. Same as the above scraper site too.

  • http://www.marketingwords.com Karon Thackston

    Thank you, Rick. I’ll do that this afternoon. Much appreciated!

  • http://seoroi.com Gab Goldenberg

    @Rick from what I’ve read on blackhat sites, you still payout on these clicks even if the account is terminated. Perhaps refusing to pay for such clicks would change the economics of spam and reduce problems (and PR black eyes) like these…