• http://www.rimmkaufman.com George Michie

    Hi Benny, this strikes me as an okay approach for a small program, but far too crude for someone spending real money in search. If the audience is folks spending < $5K/month, I'm with you, the data is likely too thin to do much else with it.

    However, for the folks we work with (multichannel retailers, travel, financial services, other) spending $50K to $2 or $3 million a month your approach makes much less sense. The value of traffic does not depend strictly on AOV, but also on conversion rates. "Cheap flight to NYC" will have a very different conversion rate, a hugely different AOV and likely a different type of cross channel interaction profile from "New Zealand Vacation Packages". Granularity matters, and parsing credit between channels and within channels at the order level as we do is essential to growing a program profitably.

    Again, what is good advice for one type of program is often nonsense for another type so don't mean to throw stones, just making the case that in large programs with richer data sets a more granular approach will produce much better results than looking across the whole program with averages.

  • http://www.esearchvision.com Benny Blum

    @George – thanks for the comment. You are correct that this is a relatively crude analysis and that there are ways to dig out more accurate values per click for different types of KWs. However, I think your jumping ahead and making some assumptions about the validity of a basic analysis versus a more in depth look comparing upper funnel lower funnel keywords or informational versus transactional searches. What I’m saying is that you’ve got to start somewhere to understand if you’re under or over valuing given channel before spending a lot of time to parse out your KW set by conv rate or user intent. From there, you can parse out sub-sets of KWs to identify if the over/under valuation varies by intent or KW type.

  • http://www.rimmkaufman.com George Michie

    Thanks for your response, Benny. You’re right, you have to walk before you can run, and you also have to work within the constraints of the tools available to you. This is a good method of getting a sense of how the program is really doing overall. That said, ultimately you need these insights to inform action, and the mechanism for taking action is through bidding which is done at the granular level. At the end of the day if the more accurate value measurement doesn’t feed back into the bid management system what’s the point?

  • http://www.esearchvision.com Benny Blum

    George – the validity is rooted in effectively manage up within your clients organization. Complicating the value of one click versus another can easily go over the heads of non marketing- savvy individuals but a simple dollar amount can go along ways to justifying dollars spent on the marketing side. To that effect, an interesting analysis would be aggregating by user intent (informational v navigational v transactional) even though it, as you suggest, has no bearing on bid management. Instead it provides insight into an expected and justified cost per click for a given channel.

  • http://www.rimmkaufman.com George Michie

    Good point, Benny, thanks!

  • http://www.investmentpropertycalculator.com.au/ patrickshi

    (2,975 conversions x $25) / 27,348 clicks = $2.01 / click

    (2,203 conversions x $25) / 27,348 clicks = $2.72 / click

    Are these calculations correct?

    Furthermore, I think this should be based on profit not revenue.

  • http://www.esearchvision.com Benny Blum

    @ patrickshi – thx for the comment. Seems that the answers to the equations were just flipped. The range is still the same.

    Regarding profit vs revenue: good point. Same process applies. Just multiply the click value by your margin. Be sure to normalize the margin to take into account this is a top line analysis. As George has previously suggested, when you dig in deeper to parse out different types of KWs or which types of terms drive sales of different products, you’ll be able to more accurately show the value of a click for a smaller sub-set of KWs.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/N4XXEX4H35MTIB77WT3I3LIEEA Irina

    HI Benny,

    Where do I take these First Click, Last Click, Linear from? I’ve searched everything I could in GA, and it seems like First Click = first click conversions, last click= last click conversion, but where is Linear? Thank you,